worst take of the week and it's monday

Lightning is as much about speed as it is cost. Even at 0.5 sats v/byte the speed is what is important. Plus the more small transactions you have on chain the more expensive it gets.

What % of transactions really need to be instant AND have a trust model that is incompatible with the recepient accepting 0conf transactions? There is definitely a use case for LN, not doubting it.

Well, you said "We don't even need lighting" which the kind of the opposite of "There is definitely a use case for LN" Any kind of retail that needs to move people through a line need an instant tranfer of some sort, even if it's not lighting specifically. If you want btc to be a currency, and not just a store of value, you need something that can do that. With 0conf you might as well be accepting a check, you'll just know quicker you got robbed. And if you're coffee shop doing a 1000 transactions a day the utx0s are gonna be absolutely ridiculous.

That was bait

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