I've got to say this again broadly, I have seen this sovereign citizen shit tried soo soo many times and it does not work. If you are already in front of a judge, it's too late for "this one clever trick" that will prevent the court from asserting jurisdiction over you at the point of a gun. View quoted note →

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Philosophically, I’m very keen on natural law, but don’t try to natural law your way out of a police arrest or it’ll be your Waco moment.
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D3in 1 month ago
You are just angry and not admitting you are part of their cyst-em....
Correct. You could believe (and perhaps even be right) that a court has no legitimate authority, but authority is commandeered through violence. There is no practical difference in asserting your sovereignty when you’re in court as when you are being mugged by a robber. In both cases you either comply and play the game or be prepared to use violence and, in the case of the state, that would likely require you to use constant violence for the rest of your life until you’re far far away from the long arm of the law.
"authority is commandeered through violence" 🎯 🎯 🎯 always has been brother. always surprises me when people don't realize this or, like ol darth is doing, pretend they are above it
I work in the legal field (US) too, so i get where you are coming from. Regardless of where you are, if you fuck with the state in a real way, they will make your life hard. Everyone’s a tough guy till the fists and/or lead start flying
And, as a patriot of my own country, I have respect for people wanting to establish their own sovereignty against tyranny. And perhaps this guy has done that and so well done, but most people do not have the resources or will to do such a thing and end up getting thrown in prison when they try some of this stuff in front of cops and judges in my country.
I have the same respect. Not only do you need resources, you also need to be very capable handling yourself in violent (or potentially violent) situations. Most are not capable.
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uncleJim21 1 month ago
I would love to see one of these types take up a bounty for X sats to prove they can use these tactics for a simple misdemeanor. Rules: do a specific misdemeanor thats ideally less than a few months in a specific jurisdiction with a specific sovereign citizen legal theory. Make the bounty so juicy they cant weasel out "it isnt worth my time"
I was literally just thinking how I could offer bitcoin for proof that would satisfy me that this works in non trivial circumstances. It would have to be backwards looking because obviously I can’t pay someone to intentionally commit a crime lol but I doubt anyone who claims to have done this would be comfortable doxing themselves because I’d want to see court documents.