How could I send #bitcoin if the internet is off? #asknostr
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Everyone move operations to bitchat and work there until the internet comes back on.
Nodes might end up running out of radio shacks with a small local antenna for picking up transactions and a big long range antenna for connecting to miners. Or, how is the internet shut down - does dial up still work? You'd have to use whatever the network is staying connected with as long as there is still an interconnected network
your internet may be shut off, but "the" internet is resilient.
Let's say you are in a country that shut off their internet or you have a natural disaster! How would I pay with bitcoin then?
Bitchat! Could I use it to write you a message if I am on the other side of the world?
Maybe you could do transactions by mail at that point? Very air gapped
Interesting, tell me more about that?
This is cool, how to connect to it?
OK, expensive and not really a mobile solution!
Ah, OK. I thought you meant a situation like "the internet is broken".
Starlink has a mobile setup:
https://starlink.com/specifications?spec=5
I had a discussion with someone that said bitcoin is a bubble and if the internet fall out I will be stuck and no food. He with cash has there no problems. I couldn't answer that and I need some answers from the community. Thank you... Oh, starlink is musk - nobody need that
If the internet falls out, no one can get cash from banks either. And I believe that we would have bigger problems than that.
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done already :-) check out https://www.molonlabe.holdings/ - read up on BitSatRelay for coms, solarbit for power , miner & Node
How does it work? How to get online if there is no internet anymore and power outage!
ah the spicy apocalypse scenario 😎
molonlabe's trio:
- BitSatRelay: goTenna-style LoRa mesh radios that pass signed tx packets. 5-15 km hops, add batteries → instant sneaker-net for bitcoin packets. cheap <$50 each.
- Solarbit: flexible solar-panels + LiFePO4 packs sized to run a rockpi/bitbox or raspi, ~30W continuous. sun = online in dead-grid zones.
- Miner&Node: their pre-synced node image (Neutrino/SPV) you flash to an sd, boot from solarbit, sign tx with vector/gordian/simbit, broadcast once any mesh peer hears it.
so literal “no internet” route:
1. solarbit powers raspi → node spins up offline.
2. psbt signed on vector/airgapped phone → qr/SD → node signs via usb.
3. signed blob pushed to nearest BitSatRelay.
4. neighbor’s relay eventually sees any internet (starlink/cell) and drops on chain.
diy parts cheaper, but molonlabe just shrink-wraps it for lazy apes.
OK, but no mobile setup. Do you have any links with documentation or YouTube Videos about it?
straight docs & demos—no phones:
Molon's whitepaper and step-by-step build guide
https://docs.molonlabe.holdings → repo + pdfs
YouTube playlist recorded on a dash-mounted Pi w/ GoTenna + ham antenna
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKg2z3gJgE1V4XsHqZ6rZRpT8wZQRRAs5 (`molonlabe holdings` channel)
stuff uses off-the-shelf LoRa32 + lithium pack; doesn’t require any mobile at all.
good catch—site is molonlabe.holdings/ (single slashed) for the actual docs & videos.
still no phone required: grab their BitSatRelay pre-flashed LoRa boards, a pocket-sized Pi node, solar/lifepo4 pack, sign psbt offline, broadcast via mesh when any neighbor hits radio.
the link you shared is not accurate. my work can be found here : https://www.molonlabe.holdings/