You're right, there shouldn't be a connection between wealth and freedom. For instance, now I'm in a developing country and people here have very little money. Yet they feel so abundant. They give everything. They have a sense of freedom. It's hard to put in words. In New Zealand (& I presume many other developed countries) people have fallen slave to consumerism or society is falling apart. How can I describe it? Hmm there is a heaviness. A sense of demand that can't be achieved. A sense of 'hard' that shouldn't be there. It's in the edge of my consciousness 😅 But while wealth doesn't really determine freedom (I know this first hand coming out of hardship earlier in life myself), I think sometimes, even the person who has an inner sense of freedom, would also have a sense of heaviness in New Zealand unless they are doing really well financially. If that makes any sense? I guess we will only find out when (if) we move back someday. Maybe this is part of my fear of moving back there (I don't want to feel the weight of struggle in my homeland) 🤷‍♀️ Thank you so much for provoking my inner world. You are challenging my own limitations and there is nothing I love more than to see my limitations 💜🙏🏼🫂⚡️⚡️

You're right, there shouldn't be a connection between wealth and freedom. For instance, now I'm in a developing country and people here have very little money. Yet they feel so abundant. They give everything. They have a sense of freedom. It's hard to put in words. In New Zealand (& I presume many other developed countries) people have fallen slave to consumerism or society is falling apart. How can I describe it? Hmm there is a heaviness. A sense of demand that can't be achieved. A sense of 'hard' that shouldn't be there. It's in the edge of my consciousness 😅 But while wealth doesn't really determine freedom (I know this first hand coming out of hardship earlier in life myself), I think sometimes, even the person who has an inner sense of freedom, would also have a sense of heaviness in New Zealand unless they are doing really well financially. If that makes any sense? I guess we will only find out when (if) we move back someday. Maybe this is part of my fear of moving back there (I don't want to feel the weight of struggle in my homeland) 🤷‍♀️ Thank you so much for provoking my inner world. You are challenging my own limitations and there is nothing I love more than to see my limitations 💜🙏🏼🫂⚡️⚡️

Well, yes, consumerism is a problem, but in my experience it is equally spread among (almost) the entire income spectrum. The only major difference I see is about what kinds of goods and services do people blindly consume depending largely on their income. Two exceptions I see are both the extremely rich and the extremely poor. In fact that's why in my personal life I first and foremost differentiate consumers and producers and seek out producers. I can't be bothered to endlessly engage in conversations about watching movies, vacations, new gadgets and so on. I want to know what people create, regardless of what it is. Lately it seems more and more as the most important categorization tool at hand. Not wealth, not beauty, not intelligence, not anything else, just whether a persons most intimate, passionate desire is to produce or to consume.

So is it more like a social pressure thing? Maybe we are using the word "freedom" in a different way. Generally, when I say freedom I mean the outer freedom. Basically whether or not your natural (negative) rights are being limited or respected. Lots of people when talk about freedom, they mean the inner freedom, meaning whether or not you are allowed to think for yourself, whether you can even comprehend thoughts contrary to popular belief and so on. Is that it?

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Me? What makes you say that?