So you'd have been okay with Cashu, Ark and Spark if the Cashu devs, Ark Labs and Lightspark didn't run any instance of these systems and only built the software?
Another dishonesty from you I recently discovered from you is in just the first few seconds of the interview you said if someone had come up with these systems 6-7 years ago they would have been laughed off stage. Ruben Somsen came up with the idea of statechains 6 years ago and no one did, in fact, no one laughed at his ideas, his presentations (available on YouTube), the Mercury Layer implementation etc. They just never took off till Spark came along
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Their design is built around scale centralization, it's shit design no matter what their incentives.
> Statechains never took off
That is being laughed off the stage.
Lightning is.
> Until spark cane along
And Spark is laughable, so by your own admission statechains only use-case is pretending to be lightning.