Don't forget privacy. You are doing this for the sake of some privacy too. This means to stop endorsing fedcoins.

You have a very biased view.

And not only open source, but also free software. Look at Android, it is open source, but then govs and corporations have built a spy machine on top of it, because of all the non-free software they forcely include, and because Google refuses to let others participate in the development of Android itself.

I'm all in favor of profiting from fedcoins as governments and millionaires pour money to make them "relevant". The only difference is remembering that neither governments nor millionaires have your best interest in mind when it comes to money. That is when you go for real solutions that they avoid like the plague. Guess which privacy coin keeps getting chased by western government and delisted from all major exchanges because of "reasons"? That's the coin that provides privacy and liquidity on the real world out there.

Bitcoin and Monero are so different that they are antagonistic and do not compete with each other; they complement each other. I will not discuss this any further; it is a waste of time.

I arrived at this conclusion too. They are complementary tools. Bunch of maxis on both sides tho.

Exactly.

Monero delivers what the fedcoin promised. That is the difference and you know it.

You're going to need both to survive. We'll talk in 10 years.

Me personally need neither of them. For my scenario in ten years there isn't even internet, therefore blockchains are out of the picture. I've wrote a cryptographically signed method based on units of time and digitally verifiable debts. Not sure if you are interested, this was a topic from the NOSTR-02 in Coimbra where in such scenario the Internet is gone but cellphones are still plenty. So two people "without money" still have at minimum time and a few possessions. The wallet permits both phones to sign events with time (e.g. I worked ten hours for you) and to mark when they got paid (both sides get a receipt). We thought hard on the topic and time was the most intuitive and consistent measure of effort. To cut the conversation short: for survival you need basic stuff like food, friends, protection and off-grid tech. That we build quite well on our own and won't be dependent on monero nor fedcoins.

You can't even be sure that the version compiled on your phone is even the same version released as source code. Unless you compiled it yourself, which nobody realistically does.

I think that of there is not internet, then they cannot control us and the problem is solved. There is going to be internet, I think.

Uh, developer compiled it and hashed the build so you can tell for sure it is the same one.

Sorry, did you compile it yourself? There is some confusion here because anyone can introduce hidden code during the build and then hash the compiled result. Furthermore, none of the suppliers that compile the code onto their smartphones are interested in sharing compilation results. Unfortunately.

There might be internet, likely one that you can't use much before being arrested. That's why I build software where internet isn't mandatory. We should still be able to use our cellphones even if they cut our access.

Yes, I think that meshtastic is a great project for that. I will learn more

It isn't. That was an awful project which ignored basic requests and code contributions for several years that would have made it usable. The moment that meshcore was released last year, almost everyone jumped away from that awful project. For your information, LoRa only permits a few text messages per hour. It is not capable for sharing pictures, files nor voice. Plus, when more people use LoRa on the same region than the frequency quickly gets crowded and you are not even able to send those few text messages. This has happened again last month in Portugal during the floods. Everybody with LoRa wanted to send messages and the more crowded it was, the more people insisted on sending messages. So, it failed even on the scenario it was meant to be useful. It is a good toy, but really far below bluetooth, WiFi and radio walkie talkies.