Experience in my industry (commercial nuclear power) is that the DEI hires were mostly managers and HR people. The technical work was largely unaffected, but we had some good people quit when things started getting too woke not to mention the general degradation of policies and management quality, which was essentially slow but steady.

This is such a good take. Even in the liberal nonprofit sector Ive worked in the past decade, it was a lot of tried and failed overpaid “training” efforts that didn’t bear much fruit. It has not taken over the workplace, or many other such places, in crazy “woke” ways at the rate people online are suggesting…

Its probably a blanket statement, cuz like I know companies I worked for had it as part of their bonus structures

Hot take but…all the hate of DEI at the end of the day is xenophobia. Americans just can’t admit it. People don’t like seeing BIPOC people taking jobs, and use “DEI” as the excuse their dumb ass didn’t get hired. But yea, it’s a policies fault that an airplane crashed into a helicopter.

the question is, how many recent hires have been dei related. we dont figure people there for more than 10-12 years were brought in for that reason.

Thanks for sharing this

Minorities are underrepresented in the workforce and these people think white people are the ones being discriminated against.

working at Amazon was a laugh riot with their in your face DEI posters, pins, videos, meetings, etc. But being a redhead i am sure that is why they hired me.

Good to know, I have definitely been thinking it’s more than it apparently is

It’s way way way overstated generally and very very likely didn’t contribute at all to the DC crash, but to be fair the FAA’s hiring practices were objectively racist af. They filtered explicitly for people passing a “biographical test” that they sent the answers to black candidates to.

I imagine NASA is very high status still, so gets top class applicants and has a culture of+ability to maintain high levels of discernment for applicants. Can’t imagine that’s the case in other parts of gov.

For some of their roles, maybe. I’d assume that’d apply less to engineers than other roles, and though. And then a lot of their engineers were contractors, which they generally just want the best in.

No, for air traffic controllers themselves. There’s several lawsuits over it, it was…. Really poorly done. For NASA I haven’t seen any evidence of any real discrimination and I’d be surprised to learn any different than your claim.

To be clear, air traffic controllers were still properly qualified (they still had to go through the government ATC school), but the hiring practices to get there were incredibly racist. Sadly this also meant people who went to community colleges for ATC training got denied entry into the federal ATC school.

I work nuclear outages. Go to California once a year and the DEI stuff is on full display in the admin buildings. In the shops mostly only on display on the computer monitors because they make IT put it there.

I guess that depends on which shop though. Could just be my experience.

It's implicitly been part of the agenda since the 70s

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I suspect one you get outside left wing organizations there was nothing but lip service being paid to DEI. However, a true believer here or there in a high position can really foul things up. It’s good that everyone can stop pretending it’s important

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different country and different work, but we got a visit from the government telling us that they want to see a more diverse workforce. Not every measure can be found in a document.

idk I think dei was never an anti-white narrative at least academically speaking. Have u heard of blind auditions for orchestras or competitions, to eliminate bias. I used to be a concert pianist and I was very used to that kind of stuff. Meaning it was the norm to be judged on skills, talent, insanely hard work etc no one really felt that minorities were ignored. In fact more women got hired by orchestras this way. There’s a study about that.

I don’t think so. Friend was an Amazon recruiter and she said they had dei quotas and bonuses for hiring minority groups.

fantastic

Exactly, it's all the little things like that. Eventually though all that waste does slowly degrade the work environment in my experience at least.

Might be different in different parts of the government though?

I always suspected the emphasis on DEI was histrionics coming from right wing influencers. Both sides whip their base into a frenzy. It's all so tiring.

Uh huh. Obama's FAA rule for "biographical assessment" over skills based exam had zero effect, right? 🙄 "Our problems couldn't be the dumbasses we hired en masse! Surely not!" GTFO of here. 😂

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Equality of opportunity, not outcomes. It all starts with family and education. Fix the problem at its source.

Equality of opportunities would mean equal access to essential services like education, and no discrimination/racism from employers. However when we advocate for free education and paid maternity leave, you say it's communism Statistically, black people are poorer than white people (I hope you understand why that is and don't deny it), so many are unable to get quality education due to it being expensive, and being uneducated bars them from getting a well paying job, ensuring they remain in this cycle of generational poverty There is also a problem with institutional racism, black people are hired and paid less, denied loans more often - because they are stereotyped to be less educated and more criminal (which they are, for the reasons I talked above). And conservatives help to spread these stereotypes. So it's either a welfare state or DEI. But you don't want either, because - surprise surprise - conservatives are racist. You don't want to help anyone, ESPECIALLY minorities. Right-libertarian hate against taxes is mostly fueled by disgust of the thought that the tax money can benefit people who they perceive to be inferior.

Maybe the black community should stop having unprotected sex and fathers should stop abandoning their children. Maybe then, black children would stand a chance, being taught basic morals and values and hard work with the structure of an actual family, and then go on to pursue education and succeed in life.

Stop breaking the law. And stop messing around with baby mammas. Education is free, ever heard of YouTube? Barrier to entry to learn a skill has never been lower.

Retard thinks youtube can replace school. Your brain is cooked and you are beyond saving

YouTube is just one example. There are thousands of high quality platforms for free educational content. As someone who learned more from free resources on the Internet than from formal education up the graduate level, I think you’re wrong

I’m an airline pilot. DEI among air traffic controllers is pervasive and a problem.

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