because of trade offs. I would be fine with 0 arb data, because i have never had a need for it, nor do i ever anticipate i would need it. but i understand some find some utility for some arb data, so having consensus carve out a small space for arb data seems perfectly reasonable. but the larger and larger u make the area, the more surface area it introduces for potential harm, so i am against uncapping it. doesnt serve my interests. if you have the need for uncapped arb data, then run a node to build that consensus. my position is to signal your self serving interest, because that is how consumes us is made. if uncapped arb data is consensus, so be it. if 100kb is consensus, so be it if 0 is consensus, so be it. i trust the consensus process even if it doesn’t align with my self interest, because it’s a better answer than any of us individually could come up with. what worries me, is that people won’t serve their interests, and just parrot other people’s interest without any thinking. if every user is a sovereign individual, serving themselves, i trust consensus will find the collective good. if users are going to NPC themselves and copy paste others interests becuse they are too retarded to think on their own, we are fucked anyways

I dont hate on spammers or “monetary maxis’s” i see the tension as a good thing, as long as the serve themselves. all moves are valid right now and consensus arbitrates what is valid but people saying they can’t define non monetary is non rational, absurd, retarded. or that working through consensus is an attack on bitcoin. it’s not correct or honest.

also, arguing “censorship” is a category error

You didn't answer my question

Didn't see the other comment

Yeah, so the network consensus is not to run knots so what does that signal?

Zero data is wildly different from essentially zero restrictions on data and optimizing for data storage instead of money

You seem to be suffering from cognitive dissonance. The data shows otherwise, youre just saying things because you think they sound nice

How? You yourself said 20% run knots, that means the general opinion of the node runners is not aligned with this fork

Because since V30 node count has jumped from 2 to over 20% in an incredibly short amount of time, and still climbing. You seem to be willfully ignoring that

I thought you were saying knots ? Now I'm confused, are you on the knots side or v30? I haven't undated my node in a very long time to stay out of these latest shenanigans

Since v30, Knots node count* The network is naturally reacting to a captured implementation making changes that are incredibly contentious and lacking anything near support

Yeah, I already said I agree the recent changes to core are contentious and disagree with them, but I don't believe a soft fork via a node implementation with just as shitty processes for improvement is the answer. Tell you what, i would run knots if the repo was on nostr and all of the discussion for improvements were on nostr and there were 5-10 devs as maintainers. Until then, to me, it's beta #reckless software . Didn't I read somewhere that when you're on knots after a certain amount of time you have to actually update? Like every year or 2 or something?

It has an expiry option that is disabled by default. You should take some hints in how many coordinated smear campaigns Luke has gone through. So blatantly not organic, and been going on for years

Well, the fact that most of the commits are from one dude is concerning. But also, Luke doesnt do himself any favors. Commenting "liar" across the board is pretty autistic confrontational behavior. I don't think he is a bad guy, but he certainly is weird as fuck and the fact that he has a following of zealots is also concerning.

Well, lots of people lie. Especially when youre the victim of years long smear campaigns, as I said. Calling liars liars is autistic and confrontational? 😂 Some people also conflate defending somebody who has done more for bitcoin than most, with being a zealot follower. Bitcoiners are very easily manipulated, people spout the same few lazy talking points that you can tell they havent even thought about for more than five seconds