People never understand who they vote for and never learn that by voting in the actual “democratic systems” is just handing the power over to some puppets. People should only vote if someone comes and presents a clear plan to replace the representative democracy with direct democracy. Anything but is just a show.

12 hours

That sounds like communism.

This is the Opposite of communism, Unions for workers rights for example were established because of socialism/communism in the early 1900s. Capitalism aims to squeeze all productivity out of workers for higher profit.

I want money from my employer. Not material goods, food or an apartment. That would ruin me in the long run. Soon there will be vouchers to buy food? Only with free money u will be free. #BuyBitcoin

I'll explain this so that people can understand abit better mechanisms of capitalism and communism. Anything that is done for profit is capitalism, it's private employers profitting off of the workers. In the case of argentina Milei changed laws so that Employers not the state can exchange work for food. In this example, the work is in benefit of private owners. That's actually closer to fascism. Communism is work in exchange of goods and service but the outcome is the benefit of the workers, for example extra profits may be shared amongst the workers equally. Service in exchange for food, money etc. Where the outcome benefits the state only is authoritarianism. The workers are allowed to live in exchange for the idea of the nation led by a small group in government. It's possible to have a capitalist country but is authoritarian (fascism). And it's possible to have a communist country but is authoritarian (utopian).

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Sounds like actual slavery

Just Luke in China. ^^ Anyway, when I work I want money. I want to decide for myself what it is used for. I don't need the state or private individuals for that. I saw the DDR in east Germany. "Government spending-to-GDP ratio". Planned economy. Vouchers. Nightmare

Explain it or keep quiet. All I want is money not a voucher.

I probably quickly abandoned communism because the state is involved in decisions. Sensational headlines and clickbait information. 😄 Maybe people in Argentina think it's great. No idea. Have fun

There are rich people in China, millionaires and Billionaires. I'm guessing the images of the 1960s propaganda campaign against the commies is flashing in your head as what to expect from a communist state. images of bread lines and dark dank factories endlessly producing weapons and furniture. Like I was saying before a planned economy is authoritarianism, it's neither capitalism or communism. US and European propaganda paints a picture of communism that isn't accurate at all and describes their own plans right now more accurately than their enemies.

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This guy? Is making people work more and be paid less? This guy? You mean to tell me he's treating people like cattle? Noooooo that simply can't be the case!

Okay. I can live with that and agree. I read Marx's manifesto once. That was enough for me.

no es el voucher el problema lo que ves en el video son sindicalistas, kukas pagados y mafiosos que vivian de la industria del juicio en argentina era muy riesgoso contatar a un nuevo trabajador, porque no lo podias despedir nunca mas, el costo del juicio era mayor al valor de tu empresa. los sidicatos le cobraban al trabajador por no hacer nada los salarios eran bajos y nunca subian menos del 50% de la gente que trabajaba tenia un contrato con la reforma hay flexibilidad y dan la posibilidad al emprendedor de contratar nuevo personal sin temor a perder su empresa. pero si no conoces como era la situaicon laboral en argentina y que cambio es mejor que estes callado.

I think we are all confused. There are mistranslations by Nostr sometimes, and we are speaking both English and Spanish.

I wasn't referring to the video. I was referring to the sentence. "Millei has extended the working day by 50% to 12 hours and allowed companies to compensate employees with food and lodging instead of wages." U can read the other stuff in the thread.

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I don't speak Spanish. 😅 Is there anywhere I can find subtitles? It doesn't seem like that YT generated it automatically.

I speak Spanish, the video in regards to the increased hours implies, that it won't be increased that much it just gives employers the option for more flexible workers, my argument for that is any rule that CAN be used will eventually be used and normalized. If one employer can get away with 12 hours of labor, other employers will structure their business in a similar way to get a better outcome.

It's not a mandate, but the criticism is that any law that allows abuse of workers will be used. Expecting a company to do the right thing is a very naive person's game.

It's not really that, it allows up to 12 hours a day if the hours in the entire month stays the same as if it were 8h a day, 5 days a week.

The fear and expectation is that it will be used to abuse the workers.

I think the criticism of this is legit. The fear is that this opens up legally the expectation of a 12 hour day and if I'm not mistaken the compensation for going over 40 hours is food and shelter? Sounds kinda like slavery for real

You know, in a free market everybody should be able to negotiate how much they earn and how much they want to work. As long as it is voluntary, I don't see any problem in which the employer and the employee get to any kind of agreement. Governments should not get in the way.

He's libertarian, right? So the expectation was that this administration tries to get the govt out of the position to tell companies what to do one way or another, that it's not the role of the govt to dictate hours, etc. I have no doubt the lack of regulation will allow abuses, but there should be upsides to the people/ workers as well. E.g. that it's not the state's role to protect people from viruses or to demand payment for driving permits, etc., or to make businesses overall so expensive to run that no one can do anything - all of which should make life easier and less expensive for Argentinians. FWIW I don't hold out much hope for that - power tends to beget more power ☹️

Argentinians voted for less Government and more ideological alignment with Libertarianism. So yup this is the type of law that gives them everything they voted for, less pay, less protections legally, makes the employer and employee relationship balanced however leaves loopholes that attract foreign influence. This would all be good if Milei didn't push the country deeper into US/IMF debt and sold key industries that preserve the nation state to Israel like land and rights to water. The new law implies more things will be sold to foreign interests and Argentinians will be left with very little control.