as it is secular materialist the theory refutes itself...

You just missed the conspiracy part. Where is the nafarius intent with people acting in secret?

You're God theory has lots of problems too. At least with the General Theory of Relativity we get GPS, with God all we get is fear that we're going to hell. Pretty shit technology. Sounds like a conspiracy.

Ha, perfect. You have much to learn, if not in this life, then maybe he next.

As we all do :)

We all believed this indoctrination at one point in our lives. Most people still do, even if they haven’t even taken the time to understand why they believe it.

So you assert that perfect knowledge is possible, and I'm assuming by your replies, you think you have obtained this perfect knowledge?

Where did I assert anything of the sort? I pointed out that the “knowledge” they indoctrinate us with is nonsense once you start honestly examining it. It’s up to you to figure the truth, whatever that may be… but it’s obvious that they have been lying to us.

You told me I had a lot to learn, I basically said so do you (as we all do), you told me that was indoctrination, thus it sounded like you were saying that it's not the case learning never ends. If that's not the case, tell me in particular what indoctrination do you talk about?