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People expect premiums on those websites. Buying at market price is rare.

Not on Bisq. I often buy below market price even. The fact that it's taking one week to do a trade, I've never encountered something like this. Suddenly it's gone dead. Robosats is giving me all sorts of pain for what should be a simple purchase. Alby doesn't work even though it's the wallet they literally say "offers the best experience". Holy fuck, what is it like with the others then? So in the end, I'm forced to settle this trade on chain, with the associated fees - which I would have never done had I known in advance, because it's a small trade of a few hundred bucks, so the fees eat into it and make it even more crazy expensive. All in all, a huge loss I'm taking with this "experiment". Not to mention, the whole system is super insecure. You have to chat your way through the whole transaction. Exactly the opposite to Bisq, where chat is discouraged to minimize unsafe interactions. Well, I never liked the platform to begin with, but I gave it another try today, with equally poor results. If Bisq doesn't come back to life, I'll have to deal with this shit, but that probably means ditching nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm for good. I'm not gonna have a salad of wallets and platforms, passwords, signers and shit for what should be a very straightforward operation.

I’ll check Bisq. Have never seen consistent offers below market price. Have you tried nostr:nprofile1qqs2gazhwghppw36yu0muuzqykdrcndzeafml50pnqfcy9xjx5rylsss0wkz7 ? The UX is good and you can buy on mobile.

On Bisq I can consistently put out offers to buy at market price, and can often find offers to buy at -0.5%, or even sometimes as low as -2% (and IIRC, a cuple of years ago I caught some even lower, like 3 or 5% under). The issue is being smart enough to understand maker/taker fees, network fees, and so on, and knowing not to do small transactions, because the trade involves several ones even if it's mostly automated. I keep my total costs below 1%. If a rough estimate tells me it's going to be more, I just don't do take the trade or make the offer to begin with. I'm gonna take a look at Peach now, thanks for the tip.

nostr:npub1v3tgrwwsv7c6xckyhm5dmluc05jxd4yeqhpxew87chn0kua0tjzqc6yvjh regarding this post, several user reported issues on posting alby hub invoice as payout method in robosats. I guess alby changed the stucture of their invoice and it does not play well with robosats now. if needed , i can share a sample of alby hub invoice!

I didn't investigated this, but my first though is that these users have a poor channel reachability to coordinators nodes. Do you think it's another problem?

I did two purchases on Robosats, both times the deposit locked without a glitch. Both times the LN invoice to receive the funds wouldn't stick. I was lucky ToS accepts onchain, otherwise I imagine I would have lost the deposit. I use LN to purchase varied stuff and I can zap and be zapped here on Nostr, no problem. I do have one channel open only, so Alby Hub indicates "46% node health". The channel is under 10% of its total capacity, though, so I don't think I really need to open another one. Do you think that's the problem?

Sorry nostr:nprofile1qqsxg45ph8gx0vdrvtzta6xal7v86frx6jvstsnvhrlvtehmwwh4epqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuvrcvd5xzapwvdhk6tcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9nhwden5te0v4jx2m3wdehhxarj9ekxzmny9ua2vh28, I was not clear. The issue is not payment failure. When the client waits for buyer invoice, it does not accept the invoice when it gets pasted from alby. So the channel capacity should not matter. nostr:nprofile1qqsg900w2ph8d84ujnhz7d3dqlqevrwwgzavv5xcy6jzlrsvqxwre9spz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qghwaehxw309a3xjarrda5kuetj9eek7cmfv9kz7c0wfau do you remember if there was a particular error popping up?

No error message. I pasted the invoice, pushed the submit button, and nothing happened.