How many people outside of Nostr are able to use LN in a privacy preserving non custodial manner?

Its so naive what you are saying

Do you also run a lightning node? It's fucking HEAVY. I run bitcoind + lnd + monerod and lnd rapes my cpu harder than bitcoind and monerod combined. Payments often fail due to liquidity issues. Lightning is extremely centralized. I'm not against L2, and I'm certainly not against having some private-enough way of spending BTC, but we cannot ignore that there are leaks that propagate up the layers because the base layer is lacking in privacy. I would argue most Monero folks actually see the bigger picture, in a way that Bitcoin maxis don't, by leveraging all available tools in the quest for more autonomy, freedom and privacy. And that does include saving in Bitcoin for example, or being pragmatic and using Lightning, which is the better choice in many situations (which ones those are will depend on the user for the most part, I suppose - I speak for myself)