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Thanks, Jon, that’s a great clip. It does sound like a very useful and valuable group you’ve got going there. But surely too valuable to be on a centralised 3rd party service like Telegram was what I meant.

It was a mistake on nostr:nprofile1qqs0sxxdz722j74u5kvzym4chlualjx0jef32llvdveg98jpqs0tmlgfwhsdd ‘s part to put the Meshtadel in such simple terms, he will pay dearly for that on our next PMM recording 🤪 The Meshtadel’s communications are decentralized across many different messaging apps, here on nostr, our shows on nostr:nprofile1qqsfvzdsjdzsm4lq47ecjcv6ekhju6sddqtujd2j7wg3upd4ptnnu0ganzqfx , large meetups like nostr:nprofile1qqsfzl56lqfytz6et3xn92h897n5rkwg20s77nlr8pnj7uu9kchaefs3jt5fl , small ones like just a few of us getting together to help one of our members herd cattle, or our monthly scheduled calls or impromptu calls with one another.

Cool. And sounds like you’re already quite decentralised. I’ve heard Max say he’s running Start9’s. Element / Matrix works great on those if you aren’t already using that - your own group chat is on your own hardware then and backed up etc.

We use simplex and signal as well, but the more esoteric we get, the less usage you see. Matrix seems to be pretty shit on s9 for me

Nice. Yes, I think it’s best to have options all set up to fall back to if nothing else. I have found that the backend server service on my S9 for Matrix has been rock solid. All the issues I’ve had were in getting the flaky front end clients to connect or stay connected over Tor. That said, I started using Schildi chat instead of Element (it was forked but improved) and hit a sweet run of no issues for months. Then Element seemed to get sorted by a better release too. And the issues I was having using Orbot to get Element to connect on my mobile were resolved by an Orbot update too I think. But not used it much the last couple of months so that could be out of date again now.