Why do you keep on bringing up the impossibility of changing my mind? I see no reason why we can't have have a good argument even if "I have no mind to change" even if neither of us would ever change our minds. Not that I have a problem if you would prefer to insult me though I always appreciate the pursuit of a well reasoned, personal, and cutting insult.
Speaking of which I hear your insult; you are calling me a disgusting mentally ill person that should be decapitated by my own family in public. But you haven't explained what that would accomplish besides my subsiquent inability to talk with you or think about things that you don't like. Ok, I'm dead. Now what?
You make the ridiculous claim that society has many ways to defend against abuse that aren't being enforced other than my suggestion of working with victims. I know there are many jurisdictions where judges just let abusers walk free, but I get the insane impression that this isn't what you are talking about. Can you explain yourself?
The choices of rape victims are a reason to rethink some of society's premises, not a reason to say that it's better that the victims be dead. Why are you so opposed to just talking with them that you would rather they be dead? Have you ever talked with one of these evil rape victims yourself?
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Because your identity is too wrapped up in this belief. I’ve already explained this. You as an individual define yourself as X. That means there is no way of presenting facts or giving you information or anything of that nature that will shift your perspective. It’s just not possible.
The world is rid of a vile disgusting individual with wretched beliefs and your family is tasked with the endeavor so they will feel shame and sorrow for creating you and subsequently being forced to take you from this world. They would know your true nature and hopefully decided to leave this world themselves because of the thing they created and the trauma you put others through including them.
Violence is the way we handle abusers. Brutal and unmitigated violence.
“The choices of rape victims” how about the choices of rapists. There wouldn’t be rape victims if we turned you all into eunuchs at the first sign of this type of mental illness. You realize what rape is right? Rape is definitionally something that happens by force. That’s absent of choice you fucking moron. That’s why “the choices of rape victims” aren’t my priority. I’m looking at the people doing the forcing. How is this something I have to explain to you.
It would be better if there weren’t victims. You keep trying to get me to villainize victims (for some reason—you probably actually feel deep guilt and shame that you will inevitably have to deal with).
The options in the original scenario were the child be dead or the child be raped.
If we are expanding the question. It would be best if all pedophiles were dead. All rapists. All violent criminals.
There’s literally zero consequences to just continuously executing you people. Society just gets better and better exponentially and there are no down sides. Eventually there won’t be anymore and no one will want to do it because of the consequences.
You feel so free to express your depraved behavior because you haven’t faced any consequences.
Okay, my identity is wrapped up in my beliefs and no matter what facts and perspective you give I will never change. I love talking with people like that. Talking with someone is a great opportunity to practice articulating my thoughts, and it's a great opportunity to figure out and test why some people disagree with me. Why is the fact that I won't change or whatever a problem for you?
So you say my parents are sad and kill themselves too. How is the world any different now that it's missing one vile and disgusting individual with wretched beliefs and now that it's missing the two parents of that individual? Now some store is missing it's cashier or whatever we are saying my job is, and now nobody is living in the same city, town, or apartment building as me. What's the actual effect of that? You don't have to argue with me any more? Do you think my ideas will suddenly stop being correct if I'm dead and if everyone around me is dead? Are you just so insecure that this is the only way you vould ever feel better? Or is there some other consequence you are expecting?
Who have I tramatized besides you? I hate to talk too much about my personal life, but my family certainly isn't tramatized. My sexual attraction is none of my family's business. What are the signs of mental illness? Being a Jew? Growing up with the wrong cultural background? No offense if you believe in the extermination of all Jews of course, I wouldn't hold that against you. I'm just trying to understand how you would ever manage to catch a pedophile like me unless I'm stupid enough to rape some kid.
I feel so free to express my depraved beliefs because the only consequence is that I get to have interesting conversations with people who disagree with me. Our right to speak freely without one of us being killed is a law of nature, not a privelege granted by society.