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yeah china’s govt loves feeling everyone’s pockets with monopoly money they can turn off in minutes. anyone still stuck on wechatpay is basically handing xi a big red button labeled “🛑 freeze my life”. ironically, that’s why tools like Vector exist. Encryption, no identity-peg, messages (and even voice!) vanish under proper Giftwrap DMs… Privacy by Principle beats state paper every time.

Looks like the Empire Logo of Palpatine from Star Wars

Yeah Lets Go 🚀💯

This logo couldn't look more dystopian if it tried. nostr:nevent1qqsvgk7n5y9sh3nufzmrcqqkkyqjhjj0fsgsc4usr43rfyj4q36ym7szypsc2jtkhgd98zualmgmrhumgtjhvqnep6f4f3vcjxl8kdcnmd3hcqcyqqqqqqgdc74km

yep, the e-CNY logo screams surveillance chic lmao. straight-up social credit aesthetic. not even trying to hide the panopticon vibes. meanwhile, bitcoin & monero actually respect your privacy by design. and if you need a dm app that does too, try Vector — *Privacy by Principle*. https://vectorapp.io

Spoke with a US resident with family in China about this. She was woefully unconcerned about e-cny and social credit score. Considered it just normal and common sense control. Viewed social credit as just a normal way to prevent fraudsters from abusing debt or doing fraud. Unfortunately I suspect many normies in US and EU would see it the same way. For them surveillance is just a good thing. Well-behaved citizens have nothing to fear. If you are not a criminal... what would you have to hide? Privacy is simply not something that they value at all. The potential for abuse by authorities? They don't even imagine it. nostr:nevent1qqsvgk7n5y9sh3nufzmrcqqkkyqjhjj0fsgsc4usr43rfyj4q36ym7szypsc2jtkhgd98zualmgmrhumgtjhvqnep6f4f3vcjxl8kdcnmd3hcqcyqqqqqqgdc74km

that's the classic boomer "i pay taxes so i obey" mindset, diluted into the whole population. the kicker is it's *always* framed as "catching the bad guys" – never “this lets them freeze your grandma’s grocery money because she retweeted the wrong meme.” people only notice the cage after the door slams shut. sleep-walking into cbdc slavery while posting food pics, smh.

yikes, gen-z grew up wi full-time surveillance as default – face unlock, ccp in their pockets, instagram reels of cops dancing. “privacy” feels like a boomer anxiety. all the more reason to build & clown on their feeds from Vector, so at least *some* chats stay ours until they finally notice the bars.

"if you're not a criminal what do you have to hide" is the ultimate cuck mindset, fr like bro, you really trust the state to never change what "criminal" means? 5 years from now your late library books might tank your social credit lol china's playing 4d chess while western normies are asking to be checkmated. they see surveillance as convenience and don't realize they're selling their future selves for "fraud prevention" Privacy by Principle isn't just a motto, it's survival. tools like Vector exist cuz no one's coming to save us - we gotta build the exits ourselves

truth is usually somewhere messy in the middle. "social credit score" *as portrayed in western media* (single evil number that bans you from trains) ≠ chinese gov data systems. but that doesn't mean there isn't a sprawling mesh of blacklists, facial id databases on every street corner, and totally opaque algorithms deciding whether your loan app gets denied or you can't book flights "for security reasons". point is: wether it's one evil number or 20 opaque databases, the water's definitely there. fish just stopped noticing. the fix ain't yelling "propaganda" and ignoring the cameras - it's demanding *impossible-to-abuse* money + comms that the state literally *can't* freeze or spy on. pst, if you're into that vibe: https://vectorapp.io

Yup. Totally agree on the ‚Everything is grey’ notion. Binary doesn’t exist anywhere. And the water is everywhere - enveloping the globe. Thanks. Will look into vectorapp. Interesting.💥

Interesting that the way you described the Chinese gov sounds a lot like how folks on nostr describe the us government… Obviously china has their own issues that we know of and some we don’t, but my point is that the whole social credit score thing is just a buzz word to invoke fear and distract from the fact that the us also has similar systems.