Also for what its worth, I onlyym mentioned the HRF in relation to primal because their developers, aside from alex, are the only people "dumb" enough to push this obvious propaganda. Primal doesnt receive money from them (although they do recommend them), but Im still not entirely unconvinced there isnt at least some sort of tenuous connection there at the least Now that Im suspicious of the HRF, I am VERY suspicious of them. I find it very easy to believe that primal developers are stupid enough to fall for anything because a respected bitcoiner told them to jump. I find it less easy to believe Alex's motives are as genuine. Whether its direct influence or indirect through Alex's status and his opinions, I think thats why I see them saying that and presumably taking the action they did to remove my posts from their caching server People are acting like Im presenting some grand conspiracy, but its really just the most basic incentives. Its not at all a stretch