arguments like "pushing normies to adopt a transparent ledger will lead to increased surveillance and control" have been debunked? really? so homie bitches about the State censoring Bitcoin txs (taxation is a form of censorship) but refuses to acknowledge the advantages of a digital private cash, because in the end it has to interact with the same fiat, censorsed system? "can you buy a house with Monero" ๐Ÿ™„ its a big fucking advantage if you can create circular economies that cant be surveilled by EVERYONE. if you dont understand that, nobody can help you.

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Explain to me how bitcoin is going to "co-op the system and transform it into something better" So far I don't think you all have thought much beyond: Number Go Up -> we all get rich -> Trojan Horse blahblah -> magic fairy dust -> the bankers who run the world go away quietly saying "oh well, they said they lost their Bitcoin in a boating accident. what could we do?" tbh y'all have no plausible argument this is going to happen at all. Its a statement of faith, not of fact and it's not supported by much except saifedean-inspired hopium. Which is exactly why Monero is important and anyone portraying themselves as a Cypherpunk shouldn't be fading it.
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