Yes, we agree libertarianism and the idea spaces they co-opt is a radicalization funnel.

However, @JackTheMimic, it kind of sucks watching your idea space move from bitcoin-as-software to praexology and tiny little ideological battles that have literally fuck all to do with bitcoin-as-software.

Unfortunately the state has a very efficient brain capture mechanism in place that has to be fought at every turn. We COULD just say fuck the normies and use our money in secret but there are many more of them and they tend to be easy to sway to violence.

Yeah but can we not get endlessly tripped up trying to do civilizational level fixes and focus on bitcoin. I don't really give a fuck about wellness goops and regenerative farming and carnivory. I'd rather people focus on bitcoin.

Bitcoin is money, money is a debt for service or goods. These services and goods are people's needs and interests. Money absent needs and interests is useless. If there's something specific about the money you'd like to focus on, we can. But talking about money for money's sake is pretty pointless.

Yeah uh using it, as software. Using it will prepare people defensively for a world that the libertarian thinkbois and their tiny army of retards are not going to be able to fix.

It seems Rich is not interested in talking about money per se, but about bitcoin-as-software, which makes his argument a bit weak: if you want people to focus on bitcoin as “digital money software” you can’t expect them to not see btc as money! With all the utility and ancillary industries of money. To blame libertarians—whom I couldn’t care less about—for nostr adoption issues is just polemic, tendentious, and frankly fallacious.