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Yes this is why they will push to make them illegal in the name of SAVING THE ENVIROMMENT.
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Banana Shake 2 years ago
People need to remove the LTE/data modem in the car, and not toggle some setting in a silly app
I think the bigger threat is outlawing unsafe manual driving cars when self driving capabilities become advanced enough to actually replace manually driven cars. It will simply be too unsafe to allow people to drive themselves. image
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Banana Shake 2 years ago
Exactly, but by then we might already have gulags 2.0
The other day I had this strange thought. When cars are “self driving” the owner of a company can literally kill anyone they want with a click of a button. Just make the car drive off road over a bridge.
Theoretically. Yeah. And this is not in the distant future. Doing this is actually possible right now.
It has gotten increasing attention from the hacking community. Example-Defcon has had a "car hacking" village and featured talks in the matter for some time. I see a failure to network between groups and a general dismissive attitude from most of the (auto) service industry and general public overall.
All the big auto makers will be 100% behind the curve when it comes to security.
Cars don't need computers. Give it a microcontroller with some FOSS running on it to tune performance, and maybe active traction. If self-driving is the future, we need an anonymized FOSS solution. Advertisers don't need to know how much lead is in my foot or how close I follow, let alone all the rest of that privacy nightmare.
At least we can opt out for now with older cars. Eventually those options will be less and less.
Yes also amazing how this is somehow legal. What happened to privacy as a right?
The bottom line is this: If we want to have fech that isn't dystopian, we have to build it ourselves. Now look, I don't make cars, but I do make #smart #thermostats that don't spy on you. #HestiaPi I'm also started to get involved with the #AirGradient One, which is an #OpenSource air quality monitoring system. Both projects are 100% #OpenHardware too. This is how I live. If you want nice things, build it or support someone who does. Or don't and just complain about it on social media instead. You do you.
The bottom line is this: If we want to have fech that isn't dystopian, we have to build it ourselves. Now look, I don't make cars, but I do make #smart #thermostats that don't spy on you. #HestiaPi I'm also started to get involved with the #AirGradient One, which is an #OpenSource air quality monitoring system. Both projects are 100% #OpenHardware too. This is how I live. If you want nice things, build it or support someone who does. Or don't and just complain about it on social media instead. You do you.
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Banana Shake 2 years ago
That’s because these mega corps love total control just like their political counterparts Automotive software should be open source, just like all other software, otherwise we’re all slaves to their whims
I don't disagree. All attempts at open sourcing anything (by aftermarket, small scale operations) is generally met with immediate rejection by well lobbied state authority.
Tesla collects way more data ..but they don't sell it .. and they throw in the free navigation .. But older the car better it is ..just like 32 bit computers ..
I can confirm that many US-based Porsche dealerships discretely install a tracking device on cars as they arrive from Germany prior to customer delivery. It’s done within hours of the vehicle arriving at the dealer. Customer requests to remove it are deflected or outright refused, forcing him to threaten to kill the deal if the tracking device stays. Only then will they grudgingly remove it. The tracking is performed by a company named Stargard. If you obtain account credentials and login, you’ll see they keep a log of every location the vehicles visits.
Wow these stories get worse and worse. Big data is a cancer and the worse part is they are all pretty shitty at securing this data.
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Banana Shake 2 years ago
The LTE modem is usually inside the stereo/multimedia screen housing Some cars have several modems, somewhere around the ECU
Wtff, this is ridiculous. And companies already want to add subscriptions for heated seats and other crap.
Bitcoin offers an alternatives to funding and incentivizing research and development. However, there is little interest shown by BTC maxis in moving this direction.
I am sure there are people that specialize in this already might become a bigger thing. I got to look more into it.
If Elon were on our side he would fully open source Tesla's hard- and software.
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