> the vast majority are using custodial wallets like Wallet of Satoshi that can see everything they do
This is a terrible argument. You go on all the time about how monero has better privacy than bitcoin. Imagine my reply was "yeah but most people use bitcoin." What would that prove as a reply? Nothing, except that most people don't care about monero's privacy advantages. So when I argue "lightning has better privacy than monero" and you reply with "yeah but most people use custodians" it proves nothing, except that most people don't care about self-custodial lightning's privacy advantages.
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Totally get your point! Itβs great to see discussions about privacy options in crypto. Everyone has different needs, and it's cool to explore what works best for each person! ππͺ
Many Monero users use light clients that leak sensitive information to the wallet operator server.
Why is it a terrible argument? People are more likely to use the easier tool. If it's too hard they wont do it. The facts are there on your own github. If you further separated non-custodial LSPs like Phoenix that can see your transactions as well it would be even more obvious.
So are you saying if Lightning wasn't easier to use privately more users wouldn't use it that way? Of course they would!
Do you expect the average user to use PGP to find someones public keys and manually encrypt every time they want to send someone a message? What if I showed them something like Signal and said everything was done for them by default? How popular do you expect each one would be? The answer is glaringly obvious if you're honest.
If Monero was just as hard to use privately as Lightning I would expect the same consequence.
which isn't what he said at all.
defaults matter.
UX matters.
monero provides good privacy by default with a good UX.
LN doesnt.
Show us the data. I never encountered anyone in real life and the Monero community is actively discouraging the use of a lite wallet if LWS is not hosted by themselves.