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I have a comfrey patch and a sunchoke patch. I planted them not in the garden bc my wife was sceptical of my permaculture nonsense when we moved in and it was easier to just let her struggle with her annual garden.
Now she's down to only growing luffa, tomatoes, onion and peppers, so I feel like this fall is the time to invade as she has softened to them seeing how well they grow when neglected. Also, looking to add garlic even though it's not a perennial and definitely interested in walking onion.
Looking for advice around companion planting and/or transplanting advice on YATA since y'all asked for permaculture questions and I'm unsure if I should just companion plant the perennials together or mix them in with the annuals or just make them around the garden/row borders or what.
PS pretty sure this is @rev.hodl's comfrey.
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For the garlic, they don't like to be crowded so don't companion plant them. They're an allium though so if you plant them as a border they can sometimes protect other plants from pests. Overwinter hardnecks and plant 4-6in with 2-3in mulch. Soak them in hydrogen peroxide and then a bath of liquid fertilizer before planting.
…I’ve been mulling over sunchokes…
I’ll be doing the comfrey soon!
I have walking onions on order as I couldn’t find any "locally" so these are coming from Indiana…
This year we’re going all sorts of flowers with the garden and trying to inter plant as much that grows down that grows up…
I have had 0 success with garlic or onions… I hope now that we’ve gotten more plots opened up that we’ll have better success in the future…
Do you get leafy growth but no bulbs or no growth at all?
Yeah pretty much
Plant it in fall like a month before frost. Take a bulb and break off the cloves. Plant big ones, cook with small ones. Soak in hydrogen peroxide for like 10 min to kill fungus. Then soak a while in organic liquid fert mix (fish fert or whatever). Overnight if you can. Run a 4-6 inch furrow and plant every 6 inches. Put them pointy side up then use 2 inches of straw mulch.
I’ll remember that for the end of this season…
We have tons of sunchokes now. Tons of comfrey.
I literally planted them and that's it.
So I’ve heard it’s that easy by many…
Really? I see articles about planting them with tomatoes.
We get good onions but I want to try walking ones to see of we can have them reproduce
Yeah the ones I ordered should get here next month I think?
Yes and no. They protect against root rot nematodes which can be a massive tomato problem but the garlic root system is more or less just the single bulb so they dont develop properly if overcrowded by anything else. Its better for your tomatos but not necessarily your garlic.. Depends which is your main crop really...
If your goal is protecting your garlic... scallions or chives will be significantly easier and I believe do a similar job.
Potato onions are also a good perennial choice if you leave them in the ground the onions will be smallish but if you divide and move them around they will achieve a good size.
When do you plant them
I started off with seed and sowed in early April.
Direct sow or started separately?
I have done both. Both work, but when getting started you will have more success starting them in winter inside and transplanting outside in spring. Mostly because I have only seen the seeds sold in small quantities.
Do you leave them bunched up or do you thin them out to one per hole? Chives sometimes likes to grow in bunches (I think) wasn't sure if potato onions the same?
If you give them a few inches they will make bigger onions but they are happy bunched.
There was somebody on here that sold them but I don’t think they are here any longer.
Dang that's too bad...
Ooohhh thank you!
We planted Egyptian walking onions last year. They are doing well still. They fall over and grow, but are also easy to grab the seeds and replant elsewhere also.
Thank you sir. I appreciate the question and will bring it up in the next #YATA podcast.
Can’t wait till mine get here!
Personally i would keep annuals and perrenials separate. The perrenials are so much stronger and will outcompete the annuals if they are too close. The yeilds from annuals will likely be dramatically reduced but there may be some exceptions, ie. Short lived annuals might work ok
