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makeheroism makeheroism@nostr.fan 3 months ago

No you’re a moral relativist. You won’t force yourself on others but you have no problem with others doing it so you can enjoy the fruits of those labors. You have bent (made relative) the idea of force in that scenario so you can get what you want. It is not objective to you that no one should be forcing themselves on anyone else. And engaging in any relations with a child is by force. That’s just how that works and it’s not up for debate. If you recognized objective wrongs you would take issue with the production of images or videos that you’ve personally benefitted from. That’s inherently relativistic. So honestly knowing that there is objective wrong and attempting to pick and choose when that applies to you when you want it to makes you more of a relativist. Nope that’s just observing reality for what it is. I’m not dehumanizing the people that are raped by your types (that’s all on you). I’m being empirically honest about the things that these people go through because of people like you. You go on to blame the victim of rape while attempting to seem sympathetic. That’s a neat little trick. Then you go on to make yourself seem reasonable where society “fails to” deal with rape victims correctly? So again using rape victims as a shield so you can do what you want and then blaming society cause….moral relativism. More insulating yourself against criticism. So you feel morally correct in your beliefs and shift your morality to deflect criticism. Then you admit that this isn’t just a debate of ideas and that this is about your sense of self. So there’s no changing your mind. You dismiss the victimhood of anyone else and cast yourself as principled and heroic for having the mental illness that you’ve chosen for yourself. You’re not a rebel or punk or whatever for your self imposed isolation you’re just mentally ill by choice. You seem to just want to brag about how mentally ill you are. That seems to be your entire purpose on here. Your identity is so closely tied to your mental illness that none of it is even remotely up for any real debate. So. You seem to just be here to openly be mentally ill unashamed and probably find other completely deranged individuals that have the same delusional worldview. Do you come from a Jewish family? Your style of arguing is very Jewish and they seem to be very into pedophilia historically.

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Scoundrel 3 months ago

Actually that's why I quit watching child porn. I wish other people had given that same argument you are giving now, it probably would have helped. People should demonstrate the strength to live in their own proclaimed ideal world. If someone wants to proclaim that children shouldn't be abused then it's not enough that they don't personally abuse children. They shouldn't be taken seriously unless they also act to live a life that's independent of the products of child abuse. Even if I don't feel guilty, (again, watching child porn isn't immoral) I am still disappointed in myself for benefitting from images and videos that came from child abuse. Is the only way you can feel secure in yourself by changing my mind? I didn't think that's why you were arguing with me. I certainly never needed to change your mind to enjoy arguing with you and hearing what you have to say. I still believe you are wrong, I just want to know how you came to your wrong beliefs. I don't see why this can't be both a debate of ideas and about our sense of self. If I all I cared about was meeting other pedophiles, or meeting someone with my same worldview then I'd find some homogenous pedophile fediverse instance or some "MAP" echo chamber. We both see ourselves as principled and unashamed of our beliefs, but that's exactly why we are willing to talk with eachother, isn't it? There is a stereotype that Jews are pedophiles, so maybe it wouldn't be surprising if I had a Jewish background. I'm curious though, is there any particular aspect of how I argue that comes off as Jewish to you? Also, your attempts to justify the fact that victims of child abuse go on to kill themselves or commit more abuse still come off poorly. Sure, whatever, you say I'm blaming the victim for their own choices and I'm using them as a shield for the fact that I think cute things are hot. These choices from rape victims still seem like a reason to rethink some of society's premises, not a reason to say the victims are better off dead. The victims of abuse are the only ones who have the inherent right to do anything about it. A society that doesn't respect them has no defense against abuse.

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