He’s not wrong. Bitcoin spirit died long ago. In pretty close to exiting too. It’s just that there is nothing to exit to… sad but true. People shitting on bip110 supporters have completely lost the entire plot. I say this as someone who does not support this particular way this was handled and don’t support bip110. I’m fully aware that any attempt to deviate from THE bitcoin will fail without a doubt at this point - and that is the entire point of how it’s no longer decentralized. It’s also sad that people are gloating about this when not long ago they were vocally against how core handled v30.

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Did you really think that 8 billion people were going to put on laser eye profile pics and start complaining about fiat systems and governments? No. Never. That's us. That's OUR community. The rest of the world is different. And if we wanted mainstream adoption and we wanted bitcoin to be the global reserve currency, then that means that the people using the currency changes too. 8 billion people with 8 billion different ideas. The culture changes. The currency though, which this is the cool part, the currency DOES NOT CHANGE! The monetary policy is still the same!
"the idea" lives on in other chains already 🙄 why are people so attached to a specific history of transactions?
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JD 1 week ago
You have a good point. But what a lot of us are saying is the the original ideas and 'the currency' have changed and are changing. That's the attack vector we are trying to fight against. I couldn't use L1 in a demonstration at a learning seminar because jpegs on chain priced out non junk data transactions. I thought at the time, 'Why is this allowed? This doesn't seem like a monetary network?!' Erosion factor is real. I believe a big storm is coming. They'll want increasingly "fiatization" of the protocol. 21 million coins, only? 👀
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JD 1 week ago
Yeah 23. Was like 40$ for a L1 to go through. How embarassing to explain to newbs that this is what Bitcoin is for. Yeah L1 volume has been meager since. Storm is on horizon is what im saying. It'll be Stablecoinz, tokenz, and then... Tail emissions and 21+ million. And miners will just mine the fed coin inspite of what pleb node runners are wanting. Once fiat elites are exercising power, the water becomes much more murky. Godspeed to whatever "bitcoin" becomes.
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Also, appears David Baikey didn't run out of money. Well tap wiz did maybe... But he keeps on grifting and scamming through other means now. $NAKA 😒🫥
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JD 1 week ago
Perhaps. Hard to say. Just hope it doesn't become like the past... "Why hold your own Gold when you can deposit it for an IOU Bank Note?" --> "We'll even pay you deposit interest!" --> "Oops... We are exchanging your Gold to the Feds, cuz it's the law now... but just keeping using the pieces of paper!" --> 😣 "Just buy our stock/ETF/token/IOU (MSTR, NAKA, STRC...) ... L1 is too slow/expensive/risky" --> "You don't need to access the real thing. Just use the derivative." ---> "Node running is expensive and self custody is risky." 🤐😶‍🌫️😳
bip110 does not prove bitcoin is not decentralized. and mining centralization is clearly and increasingly a problem