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calle calle@cashu.me 1 year ago
Spent time with a bunch of good Bitcoiner friends. Most of them don't use nostr. All of them urged to explain why they don't without being asked to do so. An indication of a bad conscience, I guess that's good for nostr but it doesn't really matter. Anyway, what's their reason? They haven't seen nostr used for much more than "just social media". Obviously, they're retarded and wrong and I love them. But that doesn't matter either. They don't know that the most exciting use cases of nostr are beyond a Twitter clone and it seems that that's what would make them reconsider it, but I don't believe them really. I think they don't care and made up a bunch of nonsense excuses because they feel the social pressure from their Bitcoiner peers.

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Melvin Carvalho _@melvincarvalho.com 1 year ago
Nostr, as it stands through the NIPs, is heavily geared towards being a Twitter clone. It doesn’t help that it's driven by a drivechain maxi, which has unfortunately sidelined a lot of potential financial innovation. Cashu is a rare exception that breaks that trend. We could be seeing so much more, but Nostr isn't really set up for it. Your friends have a point, and I’m glad you’re one of the few working to create the change we need. Cashu is one in a thousand, but there should be a thousand projects like it.
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Jake Woodhouse jakewoodhouse@primal.net 1 year ago
Everyone needs a solution to a problem For the friends you mention, they just haven’t clicked yet When their X profile is cancelled (again), or IG updates their terms of services to being a pronoun, or the politician they like gets shadow banned, etc etc etc, then maybe they’ll do a u-turn
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npub16lqh...kfyk 1 year ago
Daring thesis: nostr, and by that I mean the SM platform, will only work as long as it remains small and reasonably sophisticated. Once the John Doe consumer joints and the bot armies invade as well, then there also needs to be some form of moderation and unfortunately also censorship?! Maybe I am wrong and plz feel free to change my mind, but at the moment, we're still a very small network and this also is a big reason why nostr working!?
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Bryan Bryan@primal.net 1 year ago
"Obviously, they're retarded and wrong and I love them" this applies to so many people tbh.
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Lyn Alden lyn@primal.net 1 year ago
I think a lot of this comes down to the fact that bootstrapping network effects is hard. When someone says Nostr is too small, or they view it only as social media, part of what they are implicitly saying is that its network effect is not sufficiently scaled to be of interest to them, which in a busy person's life is reasonably valid. So then it depends on the builders to make a product so interesting to them that it breaks through and solves one of their problems in a way they can't ignore. View quoted note →
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mIX mix@lowtimepreference.ca 1 year ago
I'm kind of curious why they have/use Bitcoin. Is it just about getting rich? If they're not there for the freedom, sovereignty and to destroy centralized control, maybe they don't care about those principles in their daily life, speech or access to apps? Not trying to be judgmental, just interested in where they are coming from.
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