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I’ve tried a few of these over the years… because this has lightning and it’s run by a bitcoiner I’m excited by it. Using it and abusing it to hopefully pitch them for a sponsorship… if it goes well!
Sorry Joe but this is a fiat card ! They said "bitcoin-only"... LOL such a big lie! And later bellow, showing> "works with... a bunch of shitcoins". image Let's be clear: these cards are FIAT cards and you are not spending bitcoin, but you give away your sats to Saylors... Spending bitcoin is when you give your sats directly to a merchant, not through an intermediary. Seems that people always forget WHY Bitcoin... image
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fade2 3 weeks ago
Always worry about honeypots when it comes to Visa involvement. Even prepaid stuff.
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Benking 3 weeks ago
GM ☕️🫂 Joe, this is awesome! ⚡ Anything that makes spending Bitcoin easier while respecting privacy gets my vote. Thanks for sharing, I’ll definitely check it out🧡
is the lightning wallet self custodial----or do you simply have a fiat balance in the app? If its truely no KYC that's great, but how long will that last?
You send says to the card and it converts it to fiat that you can then spend. I don’t know how long it will stay no kyc and I wouldn’t know how to answer it sorry
Dude, I appreciate your enthusiasm and the appropriate level of toxicity but no one out there is living fully one hundred percent on Bitcoin… I’ve tried so many times over the years and I always find myself needing a solution like this. The other solutions I’ve had have been a little bit KYC heavy or they’re only allowed Bitcoin deposits. I like that with this one they have Lightning deposits and it’s literally zero KYC
It works with Google pay. Then you can use it on Amazon or Travala.com or whatever you like online. I’m an iPhone user, so for now it’s not in my Apple Pay I haven’t tried withdrawing cash with it, but I assume that doesn’t work - I have another solution for that
It doesn't matter if is KYC or not.... it's VISA. VISA is fiat. Every time you use that card you are literally demanding to create more fiat! Exactly against that we are trying with Bitcoin, yet people want to go back to fiat. Nobody says you have to live 100% on bitcoin standard. These things takes time. But at least try to use VISA and fiat less possible way, or at least DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR SATS. Otherwise is all for nothing, we are just giving these sats to Saylors & Co... a shame. image Please read this post I made on SN and think again. https://stacker.news/items/576140
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fade2 3 weeks ago
Authority demands card numbers issued by Freedomia. Authority demands transaction records. Authority ties merchant records to Freedomia card numbers. Etc. It all gives me pause. Should it not?
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The_Mooner 3 weeks ago
I like Freedomia. Some Services are not available with Bitcoin and so i can buy them without leaving Information about me
If you buy a gift card, you have to KYC when spending on the internet..... and you cannot really "trade" gift cards for cash or anything. (of course if you dont have a physical gift card, which I suppose you will not get)
Everybody’s situation is different. There are no solutions, only trade offs. Bitcoin circular economies are dope, but take a lot of time and effort to establish.
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Niko Nakamoto 3 weeks ago
Freedomia, Pintopay, 2fiat, Mesh bing card… plenty of choice.
You are a convenience guy. Don't lie to yourself. It's okay to spend fiat. Or stop pretending and put your boots on the ground. Talk to farmers, they are often the most open (if they get the technical setup right). Then talk to all kind of people you do daily business with. If ordering only check if there is someone offering the product for Bitcoin or Monero. Talk to your landlord. Sometimes you can make a partial agreement as a start. Adoption stopped because everybody that signed up after 2014 would simply enjoy the gains without the pains. Stop being pussies you self proclaimed Bitcoin maxis. Show your proof of work.
Yes, as soon as you spend more than once from the same card pattern recognition starts. After 5 to 10 payments you created a unique finger print. Congratulations you soft KYCed your fiat card.
Why would you be a fan of Bitrefill when XMR.cards exist, where you can order any giftcard without fiat limit (lol) over onion?
Fair. But there are people earning only bitcoin that need unfortunately to live in the fiat world. How can monero help in this? Very honest question.
And these guys - self proclaimed Bitcoin maxis (lol) - still wonder why Monero absolutely dominates the payment statistics.
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Gm 🌞 Is this part of the btc payments toolkit in 2026? I just started spending btc lightning with Freedomia You sign up and it creates a No kyc Visa card for you V v private way of turning your zaps or btc more generally into spendable fiat Let me know your thoughts on it?
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fade2 2 weeks ago
Not readily available but making links isn't that hard if you have the authority to do so.