if you read the architecture spec of indra you will see that it uses the same source-routed onion layered encryption/forwarding scheme as lightning uses, except for with traffic there is actually a "message" protocol in lightning nodes, this project was intended to be something like popping that out to the front and putting teh LN in the back as the way to limit spam and incentivise node runners ecash is a client/server tech that was invented in 1983 by David Chaum, and while it has its uses, anonymity is NOT one of them, and i have had multiple harsh interactions with Calle about this, and he conceded i was right, ultimately mints know who mints and who redeems the Indra protocol enables you to use Keysend or AMP payments (AMP is a multi path, failure resistant variant of route selection) that enable you to load your accounts anonymously with indra nodes without them knowing who you are, and you can do this with LN, you can't do this with ecash, or at least, the mint is a weak link in this process, lightning onion routing prevents the correlation in origin (it doesn't hide timing though, but this is the same in Tor as well)

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i'm being polite because i assume you don't realise i've been involved with Tor since 2006 (look for David Vennik in the tor mailing list archives) and i gave up on Tor because they didn't want to talk about a way to monetise tor node operating, which i perceived as a long term vulnerability that would slow the expansion and thus weaken the security of the network i haven't been wrong about that either, there has been several cases of breaches of anonymity on Tor, Ross Ulbricht is the most famous one
Ty that would be a correct assumption. :) Agree, monetization of decentralized protocols is key. Without an economic incentive they will forever be niche and vulnerable. I'm working to create an economic incentive for btc block template production. What do you think about other anonymizing network infra projects? I know bitcoin nodes can operate on clearnet, tor, I2P, and cjdns but I haven't studied them enough to understand the differences. I have heard about something else called nym, but it's run by a company 😒. There is an alternate timeline somewhere where I dug in and became a btc p2p expert but that's not how the cookie crumbled.