Three corporations control over half of the wine sold in the U.S.
That number climbs closer to 70% if you add their private labels.
So when you’re staring at a wall of wine in the store…
You’re not choosing between hundreds of options.
You’re choosing between clones.

E. & J. Gallo
The Wine Group
Constellation Brands
Together, they own or produce dozens of brands and you’d never guess many were related.
Different labels. Same playbook.
This matters because it changes how wine is made.
At that scale, winemakers aim for consistency.
Not character.
A Cabernet is supposed to “taste like a Cabernet,” no matter what year it is or where the grapes came from.
To get there, they use tools that shape the final product:
• MegaPurple for Color
• Excessive Sulfites for Preservation
• Acid, alcohol, and sugar adjustments
These tools aren’t unusual.
and when the goal is volume, they’re essential and used excessively.
The result: most wines on the shelf start to taste the same.
And for some people, the chemical tweaks may be the cause of your headaches or other side effects.
This kind of standardization is most visible in the U.S. especially in California, where industrial winemaking is most developed.
While there are boutique wines sprinkled around, there wasn't a long enough wine tradition to keep corporate profit interests out of the production process.
If you want to find wine that tastes unique, here are a few ways to start:
• Ask your local shop for small producers
• Try local wines when you travel
• Or default to French and Italian wines, which often use fewer additives and standardizations
Most wine drinkers aren’t thinking about this and that’s the point.
Once you start noticing, the whole shelf looks different.
If this gave you value, please zap or reNOST.
I'll be sharing more soon!
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Can you tell us some brands you admire/respect?
“The result: most wines on the shelf start to taste the same.”
This is the result of debasement. Margins get thinner and thinner while the consumer has less money to spend and is looking for the cheapest tool to get the job done. This forces any business to optimize for efficiency which causes them to all use the same cheapest inputs and same cheapest process to produce the same product. It’s becoming super obvious in restaurants too. Everything just tastes the same because it is the same
Absolutely 🤝
Honestly, at this point I just meet local winemakers or buy French and Italian, but honestly, I drink a lot of my own wine
Corporate Wine Still Sucks.
It's soul is dead
Your post prompted me to research who operates the vineyards that make Justin, my favorite cab. Surprisingly, it’s run by The Wonderful Company, who coincidentally makes my preferred bottled water, Figi.
If you like the flavor, there's nothing wrong with it outside of potentially more harmful additives, but there's not really any clarity there.
You'd probably love exploring otherwise to find some with more soul, but there's nothing wrong with having a go to
Bedrock Wine Co. is a great Sonoma based winery but the source from all over California. They partner with small family owned vineyards and have a wide variety of wines. The majority of their wines are under $70.
I recommend doing the deep dive on the wonderful company and their control of water and politics in California.
Spoiler alert: they are far from wonderful
Wow! I just learned something really cool. Thank you for that!
There's obviously value in trying other people's stuff, but I'd be skeptical of any wine maker who didn't highly prefer his own wine.
Of course! Will be posting more like it 🫡
That's true. Seller fatigue is this thing where when you drink your wine all the time you start to think it's the best wine in the world. With that in mind, it says a lot if a winemaker doesn't drink a ton of his own wine
Interesting fact about Justin, the owners lobbied to be able to cut down thousands of old growth Live Oaks on their property. Which in Paso Robles, San Luis Obispo County is illegal for everyone else. Rules for thee but not for me. ISOSCELES reserve is a delicious wine though.
I think what happens with a lot of casual wine drinkers like me is they experience a wine they like in a restaurant, remember the name, and then grab it if it appears on a grocery store shelf. I feel like if a winemaker can get on a restaurant menu, especially a chain (CPK, Cheesecake Factory), that’s the golden ticket.
On an unrelated note, I heard from a restaurant owner that a common strategy is to build in the largest profit margin on the *second* cheapest wine on the menu. He said customers tend shy away from the cheapest wine on the menu, and are immediately drawn to the second cheapest. I found that fascinating. So that second cheapest wine you see on the menu may actually be the one with the lowest wholesale cost, and it generates the largest profit margin.
GREAT 🍷🫂🫡
That’s really interesting! I wonder who they had to pay off.
Absolutely. All good points
I'm so happy to have have no reason to play that game. No matter what, if you have wholesale accounts, there's no room in the middle. You're either the cheapest or close or need to be the most expensive.
What Bitcoiners have allowed me to do is to just focus on quality
I did not know, but am not surprised.
Ben Justman🍷
Three corporations control over half of the wine sold in the U.S.
That number climbs closer to 70% if you add their private labels.
So when you’re staring at a wall of wine in the store…
You’re not choosing between hundreds of options.
You’re choosing between clones.

E. & J. Gallo
The Wine Group
Constellation Brands
Together, they own or produce dozens of brands and you’d never guess many were related.
Different labels. Same playbook.
This matters because it changes how wine is made.
At that scale, winemakers aim for consistency.
Not character.
A Cabernet is supposed to “taste like a Cabernet,” no matter what year it is or where the grapes came from.
To get there, they use tools that shape the final product:
• MegaPurple for Color
• Excessive Sulfites for Preservation
• Acid, alcohol, and sugar adjustments
These tools aren’t unusual.
and when the goal is volume, they’re essential and used excessively.
The result: most wines on the shelf start to taste the same.
And for some people, the chemical tweaks may be the cause of your headaches or other side effects.
This kind of standardization is most visible in the U.S. especially in California, where industrial winemaking is most developed.
While there are boutique wines sprinkled around, there wasn't a long enough wine tradition to keep corporate profit interests out of the production process.
If you want to find wine that tastes unique, here are a few ways to start:
• Ask your local shop for small producers
• Try local wines when you travel
• Or default to French and Italian wines, which often use fewer additives and standardizations
Most wine drinkers aren’t thinking about this and that’s the point.
Once you start noticing, the whole shelf looks different.
If this gave you value, please zap or reNOST.
I'll be sharing more soon!
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Sounds similar to btc mining pools
Holy crap, so true!
Even the small little vineyard behind my house is part of effing Gallo!
GM ❤️🔥🍷
It definitely a cool rent to own model for them
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Our daily red is the best - organic and sulfite free. Real wine…
I feel the same
Though no wine is truly sulfite free
Constellation Brands just sold most of their portfolio, by volume, to the Wine Group. So it's really just a duopoly.
This being said, that's not the case in any of the other major wine markets, i.e Europe, New Zealand or Australia.
Damn that's wild. I'm behind!
I think the sell was only just announced two weeks ago, and is still pending DOJ approval. But it's only a matter of carving out which brands are part of the transaction.
Added sulfite free * naturally occurring sulfites only *
I figured 🤝

Ben Justman🍷
Three corporations control over half of the wine sold in the U.S.
That number climbs closer to 70% if you add their private labels.
So when you’re staring at a wall of wine in the store…
You’re not choosing between hundreds of options.
You’re choosing between clones.

E. & J. Gallo
The Wine Group
Constellation Brands
Together, they own or produce dozens of brands and you’d never guess many were related.
Different labels. Same playbook.
This matters because it changes how wine is made.
At that scale, winemakers aim for consistency.
Not character.
A Cabernet is supposed to “taste like a Cabernet,” no matter what year it is or where the grapes came from.
To get there, they use tools that shape the final product:
• MegaPurple for Color
• Excessive Sulfites for Preservation
• Acid, alcohol, and sugar adjustments
These tools aren’t unusual.
and when the goal is volume, they’re essential and used excessively.
The result: most wines on the shelf start to taste the same.
And for some people, the chemical tweaks may be the cause of your headaches or other side effects.
This kind of standardization is most visible in the U.S. especially in California, where industrial winemaking is most developed.
While there are boutique wines sprinkled around, there wasn't a long enough wine tradition to keep corporate profit interests out of the production process.
If you want to find wine that tastes unique, here are a few ways to start:
• Ask your local shop for small producers
• Try local wines when you travel
• Or default to French and Italian wines, which often use fewer additives and standardizations
Most wine drinkers aren’t thinking about this and that’s the point.
Once you start noticing, the whole shelf looks different.
If this gave you value, please zap or reNOST.
I'll be sharing more soon!
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Pretty much in line with any aisle in the store. Just substitute different mega conglomerates.
absolutely. Wine is intentionally opaque just like everything else, but has this extra added veil of superiority
It’s going to be 2 companies in very short order. CBI just sold their wine brands to TWG
As someone who works for the largest liquor/wine distributor in the country and has a team calling on our on-premise chains this will only get worse.
How many where independent at one time and sold out?
It's probably the same as what happens in big food. Startup -> success -> get acquired
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Is #winestr still alive?
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I hope so!! 😊
We have a similar issue here in Australia with both Treasury Wine Estates and Accolade (which I think are linked to constellation wines).
Thankfully we still have a lot of boutique wineries close to Adelaide so we can escape them and buy direct from locally owned winemakers.
Buying direct is the way!
Manipulated boutique wines are so much better than super market wines