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to be fair, again, when Primal has relay or caching index issues, i too post memes and jokes about how nostr isn't down, but Primal is down. i see the issue with Primal here. i can also see all of the good that they're doing too.
Sunk cost is a helluva drug
Worst case scenario, a few years from now: "centralized/curating" clients continue to grow in MAU, investment and noise. There are still n or greater appreciators of the purely decentralized nostr vision, with n being far smaller than it could have been were it not for noise/money/attention being lopsided towards the centralizing/curating.
There's probably nothing to be done about this once the balance starts to shift thanks to lopsided investment. The good news is that us n users will get to enjoy our experience forever, centralizers be damned. The bad news is for any future users who may have noticed and joined the n group, had they not been crowded out by (the market's preference for) the alternative.
I'm beginning to get really suspicious of the term "caching". "caching" sits in naive users' heads as a benign performance improvement. And that positive glow is being abused to sneak things past the unsuspecting users.
There have been so many "I had no idea Primal does that..." notes the past few days. If the settings said "Content filtering and note-ordering server [cannot disable]" rather than "caching server", far fewer people would be using that client.
vinney...axkl
When connecting your email client to your Gmail account, Google runs a "caching" service that helps make sure you don't get messages from senders it determines are bad and that emails are "ordered properly" - according to its discretion.
You can run your own "caching service" and connect your email client to that. In this case, that means a fully alternative IMAP provider other than Gmail, because Google's "caching service" is so overwrought at this point that it is barely recognizable as the open protocol it started on.
Sure, someone can "speak valid email" to you via your Gmail account, but that doesn't mean you'll necessarily see it.
"Caching". A harmless performance improvement that definitely doesn't destroy open protocols in order to benefit the DAU and bottom line of centralizers (and besides, you can always just run your own!)
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