None of these apps qualify as Nostr "clients" to me. I am using this term with a (more or less) strict meaning, not to say they are bad or somehow not "legit". Not all things have to be Nostr clients, in fact most apps in the world should definitely not be Nostr clients. And at the same time most apps in the world would benefit from Nostr logins or some other form of light Nostr integration, which seems to be the case of all these apps that were "kicked" (well, relaytools is different, it is a relay provider service, so not really a customer-facing "app" in any sense). I have used Hivetalk many times and I think it is very good and I'm glad it exists. Same for Relaytools. I'm also glad that Wavlake has whatever the Nostr integration they have (I've not used it myself). nostrapps.com is not a list of "good apps", it's a list of "good Nostr clients", the criteria for that is not super well-defined, but basically the app has to strive for interoperability with other apps, it has to have a reasonable spec -- preferably a NIP -- that allows others to build independent apps that will interface (view, create, interact) with those core elements, using Nostr relays and events for coordination.

You left Yondar in the list ffs... it has zero users and even less development

I'm a simple pleb and use both hivetalk and cornychat regularly, signed in with my nostr npub and can post live notes FROM cornychat. Can you explain to someone that doesn't "dev" how that makes it NOT a nostr client?

People should make their own Nostr apps list. Let there be dozens. And then a Nostr apps list aggregator that is a list of Nostr app lists, that, since it uses the list kind, gets listed on the lists. List-ception is how we win.

Seriously, wtf is nostrapps.com? We host 80% of nostr’s media, have an integrated ‘share direct to nostr’ feature, nip5,nip7,nip96,nip98, user profiles, have the fucking nostr name in our domain, and are not on any of these lists, don’t get any podcasts nobody has even heard of us 🤣 Fuck all those lists, special groups, and people’s opinions, just keep building. Cornychat is legendary, I’ve heard of hivetalk and looking into it tomorrow. Please let us know how we can help with any of your projects!! 🤙

fwiw i have a subscription with yall which makes this a MUCH more pleasant experience and I've never heard of nostrapps or wtf it is

I use 3 Nostr apps regularly. Amethyst, Corny Chat, and Hivetalk. But only one of those is a Nostr app? I don't see the logic there at all.

ahhh the group trying to centralize nostr i hope you fail miserably

no, you're notba "client" you devs all have a god complex

I would look at it the same way like a browser, an email application or ssh are also not "TCP clients", while strictly speaking they do use that protocol under the hood. Or a real-world analogy: we do not define cars, bikes or motors like "road vehicles" even though they mostly use a road.

I've been most loyal to nostr.build than any other client or service. You are a huge part of the backbone of this place. IDGAF what anyone says.

Actually, all apps that allow for intercommunication should use public/private keypair signing, so yes, basically all apps will be nostr apps. I'm sorry. Your little project is bigger than you now. Maybe time to take a more hands off approach. Unless you prefer to be like Vitalik instead of Satoshi.