First Coldcard, now Liquid.
The Monero Gang always told you Bitcoin Maxis are retarded.
We told you anon. We fucking told you.
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Tell us about The Qubic mining pool 51% hashrate attack a year ago and how can we trust Monero, beside the other stuff like being exposed to inflation bugs that can be hidden, just like this Liquid shitshow.
It's this disingenuous bullshit that really keeps the Monero crew going eh?
Hashrate follows price, the price of Monero is much higher than it was a year ago. Also ASIC resistant PoW means incentives are in place to avoid centralizing hashrate among huge regulated ASIC farms as is the case with Bitcoin. The structure is in place to get stronger over time.
This Liquid bug wasn't a hidden inflation bug, it was detectable. It was sloppy code, like the Bitcoin overflow bug. Monero is probably the most reviewed and scrutinized privacy-focused code base on the planet.
uh man, super boring old arguments, research it yourself.
this bullshit, other bullshit, more bullshit - and the fact that monero outperforms bitcoin since 2 years already.
That's not true.
Monero outperformed Bitcoin (in fiat terms - whatever that means lol)
YTD
last year
last 2 years
last 5 years
last 10 years
since creation.
We told them that Bitcoin coin is not fungible.
We told them that maximalism is bad.
We told them that LN and liquidity are derivatives (and NOT Bitcoin).
We told them that custodians and ETFs will fuck with synthetic Bitcoin aka render the 21M coins meme irrelevant.
We told them that Core is compromised and Luke controlled opposition.
We did not tell them that Bitcoin itself uses sloppy code. Bitcoin is still one of the most secure software projects out there.
The Monero ecosystem is just as vulnerable to some attacks as Bitcoin.
Your dreams shall be continued 😂
no.
Sure, everything is vulnerable now. Bitcoin Maxis are retarded anyway.
Check it.
no need to check, i was there. there were several years where xmr underperformed btc.
Cool man, hold whatever you want but comparing external factors with Bitcoin itself then comparing to monero is disingenuous & low intellectual quality.
It’s really tiresome. Sad to see monero bros on here just become full blown shitcoiners. I have been saying it for weeks but they are no better than the meth heads and xrp army i debated with for years on twitter.
May actually be worse than those shitcoiners as they have a coin with actual utility that could be used in conjunction with bitcoin
sure dude, your coin is the only chosen coin.
when you learn to read and think, you can see i did not say Bitcoin, i said "Bitcoin Maxis".
You must be one of them.
Many people wanted to see privacy tech implemented in Bitcoin's base layer, Monero people included.
Liquid was presented as an alternative: "we don't need privacy on the base layer and we sure as shit don't need Monero, we can have privacy in our federated sidechain instead."
It's another Bitcoin maxi product built for Bitcoin maxis who want to avoid Monero.
As a result, by pushing privacy out to a separate layer, code quality suffered and the protocol got hacked.
Liquid is absolutely relevant to Monero. It's ignoring history to assume it isn't.
It's ALSO relevant because many prominent Bitcoin people used this as an opportunity to dunk on Monero. "This is why we don't have privacy on the base layer."
That point completely misses the mark in understanding what went wrong.
People who had a favorable opinion of Liquid should understand why and how Monero is superior to Liquid.
You've formed a pretty severe case of MDS. I hope you heal.
Absolutely correct. The funniest thing is that Blockstream convinced BTC Maxis that L-BTC is BTC, even though it is a corporate shitcoin. LOL
I’m saying your coin actually has utility which would indicate I do not think my coin is the only chosen coin 🤣
Bitcoin derangement syndrome is really something else
Not really 🤣
Again I have no issue with monero and think it is a useful tool for people that need it.
I am very tired and frustrated by the monero tards on here
Yeah your case is definitely an interesting one but I would definitely still call it MDS. Your reactions are too kneejerk and emotional to rational intellectually honest opinions
To each their own. You guys are very persistent and annoying.
As much as your coin is legitimate and has utility you do not debate in good faith and act like shitcoiners.
There is not a single post about bitcoin on here where you don’t have an annoying monero troll commenting that Bitcoin sucks and that we should buy monero instead
Both Coldcard and Liquid marketed to Bitcoin maxis who dislike Monero. They weren't shy about that. You do yourself a disservice to ignore the events unfolding and specifically their relevance to Monero. This is intellectual honesty:
You ignore it all and cast a silly net on people who like Monero to your own detriment.
Again you guys do not engage in good faith 🤣
You can like monero all you want. I also do not ignore it. Just prefer bitcoin instead and I am not as concerned about privacy and the surveillance boogeyman you guys all whine about while ignoring similar risks exist for monero users 🤣
You basically completely ignored my points and say I'm engaging in bad faith. Look in a mirror. You have MDS and can't have a rational conversation.
I will respond to your points regardless because you do sound curious underneath your attacks.
The surveillance boogeyman isn't the only reason to like Monero. It's easy for regular people like your family members to use it without showing everyone how much they own, and without relying on a trusted 3rd party.
Everyone acknowledges risk of bugs in Monero. Everyone acknowledges the risk of a potential hidden inflation bug in Monero. What you don't seem to understand is that this bug in Liquid was not that. It was much closer to Bitcoin's exploited inflation bug and was similarly caused by bad code. Not bad math.
it is not trolling, it is the truth :)
Monero gang is the same brain deficient monoculture of poor intellectual quality that any cohort of dogma proliferates into the world.
I warned everyone about Coldcard since 2021 and was the first to do so.
Monero performed worse in 2014-2015 in 2018-2019 and 2023-2024. Else it kept stable or outperforming Bitcoin.
A lot of Bitcoin people warned about nvk. The problem is the virulent toxic maxis who didn't want to listen, and the widespread toxic maxi culture shitting up the ecosystem. Just because many Bitcoin people warned about it doesn't negate the clear as day problem that contributed to Coldcard's proliferation.
It's just a clear sign of poor intellectual honesty to shit on Monero the way Coldcard did, and the way you do. You don't really engage honestly at all and show every quality you hate, constantly.
Bullshit, I've been discussing Monero for years much longer than you've been around and I've posted about it in depth to death.
We've beaten this dead horse for so long, it's unnecessary for me to continue to engage with people like you, who have hypocrisy written across all your engagements with other handles on this topic.
You and your crew are intellectually dishonest, claiming others are too doesn't absolve you.
Satoshi literally said big mining farms are inevitable.
Quote satoshi when it's convenient, abstain from intellectual honesty when it's convenient.
Clear evidence of intellectual dishonesty.
Big mining farms aren't inevitable with Monero thanks to ASIC resistance. It doesn't matter what Satoshi said. You can't engage without introducing logical fallacy after logical fallacy 😂
What a bunch of silly pointless words shitting up the internet. Thank you for your contribution.
You can then easily dismiss yourself from my mentions, eh?
Monero is a fun group project, enjoy your circle jerk!
Actually I like to call out your retarded logic and emotional nature, it's fun. You're in too deep to start saying anything positive about Monero now, so now you're stuck making retarded point after retarded point.
😂 nice comeback!
You're free to do as you wish with your limited time on this planet.
As are you 😘 maybe some day you'll learn to swallow your pride and ego and recognize how weak your points have been. I know my faults. I am self aware that I am being toxic to you specifically, and that other guy. You can fault me for it, that's fine. Just know that if you keep trying to shit on Monero with extremely weak logic and bullshit 0 effort arguments, and this is what you'll get in response. Or block me, whatever.