This is surprisingly a pretty good episode: View article → I didn't expect @Justin Moon to be such an idealist, he used to give me the impression of a skeptic pragmatist who had lost all his early vision of a better world, but was pleasantly surprised he is still delusional. Of course at this point he has probably already abandoned https://github.com/justinmoon/shadow, but that really sounded like a good plan and very grounded, it's still worth a listen. Also good points in the end about how Marmot is a bad idea.