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after running this for a day only seeing 8.2% of knots nodes on clearnet. this isn't even AS bucketed yet. 1540 unique core ipv4 peers 126 unique knots ipv4 addrs this is without tor to avoid tor sybils (creating multiple tor endpoints per node) I wonder if someone really is inflating their numbers via tor tricks... hmm. will continue the investigation in a couple days to gather more data + tor stats.

jb55

running bitcointap peer-tracker

this is a simple script that uses USDT tracepoints in core + #bitcointap to collect connected node user agents over time. currently just running clearnet + asmap since I don't trust tor for accurate data, but will try again with tor on later. this effectively samples nodes that core believes are diverse based on asmap bucketing logic in netgroup. so this should be the most accurate sample of clearnet node diversity. i have a script that disconnects from all my peers every 2 minutes to collect data quicker. currently seeing about 6 nodes out of 76 samples so far (7.8%). will report back after I collect way more data.

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Carman _@benthecarman.com 4 months ago

I imagine it's a lot of start9/umbrel people that are tor only

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jb55 _@jb55.com 4 months ago

yeah for sure, just wanted a baseline comparison since tor introduces a lot of potential funny business

a1 4 months ago

Strong signal considering most will be tor

GLACA glaca@nostrplebs.com 4 months ago

I feel like the numbers are inflated for sure. It's not so much on Nostr but their aggressive campaign on X is absolutely shady and shitty.

🍊 ando 💊 4 months ago

That seems like a high share of knots nodes.

Skyler Byrden ⚡️BIP 110 ⚡️UASF 4 months ago

The only number you should be tracking: 0 unique core v30 nodes

Sondre | satoshiconsult.com sondre@satoshiconsult.com 4 months ago

“(..) only seeing 8.2% of knots nodes on clearnet” Why not include all those who run Knots on Tor-only StartOS from @Start9, Will?

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jb55 _@jb55.com 4 months ago

i already said I would do this, but i'm doing an asmap analysis atm (see where they are running, cloud vs residential isp)

nicnym nicnym@getalby.com 4 months ago

Tor is a majority of all nodes for privacy. What happened to 2.4%?

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jb55 _@jb55.com 4 months ago

this was a claim by someone on twitter, i set out to validate the claim. people said I was spreading this "lie" when all I said was I was starting to look into it. pretty incredible.

nicnym nicnym@getalby.com 4 months ago

Your post was the first time I saw it on nostr. Not calling you a liar about it.

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jb55 _@jb55.com 4 months ago

looks like the top cloud ASNs don't move the needle too much due to the long tail. but its not nothing note:note1cyunel733r78nx39jc6grcxwjl2ycsgw9e6zvjn3xskcf5z8k8ks0lt4av

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nicnym nicnym@getalby.com 4 months ago

So why does this website say about 25%?

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Vendetta 4 months ago

So it turned out that I am most likely just running older version of Bitcoin Core v28.0.0 via some Libre Relay. That's how confusing all this is for a regular person. Need to find out time to switch again to actual Bitcoin Knots (https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin/releases) or stay at v28 for now. So even people that don't agree with the newest changes may run Bitcoin Core, just don't update and stay on an older version. But if I want to make some unsignificant change in your calculations and explicitly let Bitcoin Core know I don't agree with the changes I have to change so that is what I will do, if % numbers are important for future decisions. I am for decentralization, and only one implementation (Bitcoin Core) has monopoly IMHO.