tbh and from my own perspective, there is nothing keeping me here. the same people hang out and talk in "inside jokes", very uninviting to the masses. with access to things like chatgpt, copilot and the plethora of other ai tools to tickle anyones fancy, nostr has nothing to offer this way or it gets muted by the overstimulation of products. i agree that there can only be so much building if there is no substance to hang on to. most people dont give a shit about freedom tech until it actually effects them, otherwise comfort remains. the best best is to research what is actually drawing the attention of people and creating some kind of novelty for that attention to be attracted to. no one care about nostr unless you are the builders. i have tried to talk about it in my "real" world, and people's eyes glaze over. hell, when i tried to tell how cool chatgpt was was months before people actually starting using it around me, even then their eyes glazed over, until they found out how it could benefit them. no one trust bitcoin. no one trusts nostr. it feels unsafe and reckless from an outside point of view. i think you better bet is to see what you have built already and how it works in your local community. i already vibe coded a bunch of games to play with my neighbors and that is a hit. their eyes glaze over when i talk about how i did it, but they light up when playing. So the real question is how to understand their needs, their focus without being predatory. Pick one product and try to make it work in your world and if it works, it works....you should be able to shift, pivot when needed. one of my games was a balloon game and it did not work, i took the advice of the real life players and fixed the concept. this brought rave reviews. let's say you are from a football town, why not have a nostr football trivia game night, using an app built on the protocol that is above and beyond, and when you are out at the bar, you can pull out your phone to the guy next to you and say hey wanna play some bar trivia while we watch this game? that is an example. what do you like to do in your real world and how to offer a product that is something of value. my random thoughts. also trivia is big thing in bars and restaurants. social, fun, mindless (a bit), and catchy. anyhoo, i dont need no response, but thats what i got.