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meh, waste of time also
switch sectors, challenge yourself whilst also making a great living, you deserve it
We're doing it already. It's not working.
you have an example?
Yeah, but who's actually using Nostr for poker right now? What's stopping them from just opening PokerStars on their phone?
@Morgan Maksoud-Miller runs this. It's a valiant effort. But nothing is ever enough.
It’s just a matter of seeing what the most viral videos are doing and copying that. The most successful ones are posting everyday and optimizing their hooks. What you guys have is a start but it will likely be a team effort from multiple fronts.
I'll try linkedin
what nostr really needs to grow is for some government agency to complain about it
Likely is something that just uses this tech but gives users something else and is not forcing them to add/switch.
Anna's Archive on Nostr
haha . i was alread getting hella comfortable in mi casket.
Not a hopeful sign for #nostr when devs start talking like this. 🤔
View quoted note →Yeah, been trying to think about what makes the other platforms still so powerful to attract the masses. Having a portable social graph is also powerful, but new users don't see that benefit of course. Some more niche apps are probably a good way to go (fitness, video, etc.). Maybe the funding needs to be spent on marketing the Nostr apps now.
It's in all of our interests to spread the idea of decentralization and decentralized tools.
And I think that's the catch.
It took me ages to find and set up Nostr. And I'm a bit more tech-savvy than the average person.
I think most people lack the "why"—what's the benefit of using decentralized tools?
For many, the question is: what are they, anyway?
And then, how do they even get started?
So yes: Instagram and similar platforms are probably the way to go.
I would have been really glad if I'd known about some of these tools before I got "too cheeky." But unfortunately, I only learned about them afterward.
This was always true. It's a marketing problem, not a building problem. Thats what happens when there's 10mil distributed to 'open source' projects which can not be monetized
and non-marketing-informed builders are biased into thinking if they just add one more feature it will be successful. delulu
TIME
I think Nostr needs more services people actually want to use operating atop it. Poker, prediction markets, sports betting, and instant currency exchanges are good services to make available via Nostr DMs.
If you need any help please let me know. The nostrasia marketing presentation might still be relevant. Also in my work for you put together a whole marketing strategy incl content calendar with hooks etc which was actually planned for these months
Besides social media, another approach could be word of mouth. People who know lots of people, those people look up to them, they get introduced to Nostr with a cool demo where they get zapped, that could work.
They'll come, see the apps and ecosystem suck, and leave and tell all their friends too.
Now build communities and real life impact around it, instead of luring like-&-subscribe hungry people in. Is all this tech built just for capturing a chunk of mainstream social media’s users?
No KYC + crypto + anonymous might be an attraction in itself
Gradually… then gradually… then gradually some more…
💯
I dm’d you on insta
Also, would like to see you vs
@John Carvalho on a livestream to get everything on the table about why nostr not pubky, blueksy, matrix, etc
Fuck all the haters!
Any attention is good!
You do you my dude!
#haiku
Good shit..
I've been doing the same on a few platforms. I didn't know what else to do when the only potential audience we were reaching were Bitcoiners/Orange people... And even then 90% of them don't seem to understand the importance of Nostr.
I can tell you right now though... opening peoples minds on platforms filled with such closed minds is a challenge.
SWC or Lightning-poker.
you might not even need to talk about it. The main goal is to go viral and have the tech in bio
Would also like you to elaborate!
Social media like Twitter aren't THAT useful. That's why they need addictive algorithms. Vine is probably the most useful because it is short but entertaining but sporadic.
The real meat of nostr comes from things like
@Zap Cooking that add a social element to a useful skill.
There's creative avenues that can be noster based. Like exercise
@RUNSTR or some weight lifting one. Hiking or foraging, woodworking or computer building.
So many different niches that are all interoperable via Npub identities. We just need coders and niche enthusiasts to work with each other.
Don't forget wordle posting
Ive thought about it as well
True! The algo is nasty though… like TikTok it truly favours some stupid content. Taken me ages to get somewhat ok stuff on my feed but reaching the right audience is tough it feels
Let me know how you go though… I’m more than happy to help with this stuff as I think people simply don’t know. There a lot of people opposed to digital id and all that dystopian shit out there. Sad thing is they include bitcoin with eth/shitcoins.
That might be the biggest hurdle imo
I think the key is to find a niche and just master that
Aye true. I’ve been wandering around a few circles but I’m starting to think time best spent might be with the retro computer accounts/posts
I’d follow!
I wish still had the hardware to show off! I do find a lot of people who miss the days of dial-up and Winamp etc though there!
Do it!
Yes you can do that by I find the ROI is not worth it. Nostr won't die because the people currently using will have no where to go. Nostr will grow but a very slow pace even if you promote it, it's not going to bring in a flood of users
yup gap is massive, people will value what we offer them. showing stuff that matters to them is way to go, they simply won't dig here cause its better, they will if they get some value out. better doesn't always mean valuable to them
pressure ptz./*****
I think actually a good marketing campaign is what's missing. Unfortunately.
has anyone done any sound research on why users don't stay? is it the spam, bots, or censorship-resistant bad content?
can’t find their people
Torrent discovery on nostr, Anna's archive, promote the archive .org movies account, do social account backup (x,reddit...), Goodreads equivalent for book readers...
Even for bitcoin stuff, there are still people that are mostly posting on X and that ends up luring me back.
There's a solid community of "women of nature" on nostr that regularly posts. That could be a good list to make to help with discovery...
I have a collection of CPUs... From 8008 up, including CCCP pieces...
Discovery is the missing front door. Nostr does not need another manifesto, it needs people accidentally finding books, torrents, jobs, and weird niche humans before they know they joined a protocol.
every day I'm at least torn 3 times if ivy lumi should be exclusive on nostr or available everywhere.
can people handle love is the cure? 🤭
I'm trying to be on nostr only
🐈 is the cure!
Here is my list of easy-to-implement (few lines-of-code), and it will be easy to tell about nostr to Granny or imooto:
(mostly about cut out/mute lewd search results/tags)
1. Mute not in feed only (/notes), but in search results (/search)
2. Make option that muted posts/users disappear completely, as if they doesn't exist (to avoid clicking on them by curiosity)
4. Make option to mute "long -" to mute all bots
5. Make option to mute notes which have a dozens of hashtags (a lot of bots use 30 or 40 popular hashtags nowadays)
6. Make option to mute users(by pubkey) automatically in background, if they wrote a lot of events, muted by some rule
7. Enabble a lot of "muting rules" by default (otherwise I'm feel embarassed to recommend nostr in real life now >.<)
There were also proposal, to share "mutelist" with others.
Some relays claims to cut out lewd content (relay.nostr.mom as example). We should support/promote such relays!
We really just need one or two big content creators to realize what it is and not even jump ship but add it to their repertoire for it to take off in a big way.
indeed
Let's do it.
People complain about the lack of algorithm to hook them up.
no. you guys do not have ideas sufficient enough.
Just as a note Retro Gaiden (Mastodon server) plays well with all the bridges, they post this kind of stuff
We have enough content on people on youtube, facebook, x, & reddit. The problem nostr solves is censorship.
What idea would win?
Maybe a quant could show the relationship between publicity of insufficient things & people infuriated enough by them, and with the capacity, to build better things...
Thanks! Will endeavour to check out
it’s too much for me to poast.
some ways would sound super dumb (but are actually really good ofc) and some ideas are better done in stages or something like that.
but all regular people, mainstream people, don’t have the energy or patience or whatever to do something new that isn’t fun or meaningful to them. they certainly don’t have enough motivation to “be on nostr” whatever that may/could mean. and a lotta mainstream folks have a negative opinion about bitcoin even while not knowing much about it at all.
Nostr does not offer what the masses want.
I think a lot of people like freedom
Nah then explain why we’re all slaves and nobody is fighting… the masses want slop and drama on social media
not everyone, but enough people do.
