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Coming soon to a country near you.
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China 🇨🇳: On July 15, the Chinese government will launch “digital identities” for internet use, shifting the responsibility for online verification from private companies to the government.
Under the new system, individuals will obtain a digital identity by submitting a range of personal data — including facial scans — to the police via an app. This digital ID can then be used to register for and log into other apps or websites.
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The digital nightmare is officially here.
View quoted note →No doubt will be rolled out across the globe, but easier to test and fine tune where their slaves don’t have a say.
Brutal
Necessity is the Mother of Invention. May the NOSTR War begin.
Actually, China has had digital identities for quite a while, but each region has its own implementation, which leads to a lot of issues in practice. This time, it seems like they’re aiming for a unified national system. Honestly, I’m looking forward to it, it could make life a lot more convenient. Right now, you still need to carry your physical ID card for many things, like checking into hotels or boarding a flight.
As for regular apps and websites, they usually just rely on your phone number, which is already tied to your real identity anyway, haha.
You know what? I’m gonna call this a net-benefit for humanity. I think it has a higher-than-typical probability of driving people offline or to decentralized solutions. Either would reduce the incentives for superficiality, narcissism, and group think.
Watch it swing wildly into dystopian levels of control as people volunteer their entire ability to think to the state just for more 5-second clips of cats. If that happens, I’ll be happily living the offline life invisibly in the country.
É estranho você pensar assim, haha. O que te levou a se interessar pelo Nostr, já que no Nostr existe a possibilidade de não linkar a identidade real com a digital?
Mas se já existe o estupro do anonimato via burocracia física (Cadeiras de identidade, carimbos) por que ele se incomodaria se a burocracia for mais "prática"?
In real life, there are situations where you have to show your ID anyway, so if it’s mandatory, I prefer it to be as convenient as possible. That’s why I don’t really mind digital identity. Doesn’t Brazil also require ID to check into hotels or board a flight?
But yeah, I really don’t like how the internet works in China, everything is tied to your real ID, haha. So I came to embrace Nostr.
Estamos falando de internet, um ambiente que sempre foi mais livre. Imagina um governo impor que para acessar a internet e sites, você precisa ter identificação real? É loucura.
Sim, exige, mas falo justamente da identificação na internet, que sempre foi livre. Não faz sentido exigir identificação real na internet, é loucura.
Boa, agora entendi o motivo de você gostar do Nostr.
i read this as satire
Actually, almost all internet services nowadays require real-name verification, people just don’t realize it. Do you really think Google doesn’t know who you are? Then you use Google to log into sites like X, Reddit, or YouTube. And any app where you’ve linked a payment method, do you think they don’t know who you are? Haha.
Não falo sobre isso, falo sobre o governo exigir que a identificação por ID governamental, na internet, seja obrigatória, algo que me parece que a China pretende fazer.
Yes if you use those sites from a logged in account
No, it won't happen. Not every company is qualified to access the government’s ID verification system. Most apps will just require linking a phone number, and if I’m not mistaken, that’s been the standard for over ten years now.
the government treats its inhabitants like cattle, and cattle need to be branded.
So I take it, based upon what you're saying, that they're pulling a Palantir?
It’s coming …
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meshed networks will fix this bs
É loucura, mas caminha pra isso :-(
Sim, mas sempre vai ter saída.
Sim, ir morar no mato.
O terrível é q á medida q vc n se confirmation com essas regulações vai sendo ostracizado aos poucos. E aí, pra evitar a ir morar no mato, vc acaba precisando ter um login no gov.br, por exemplo
Minha preocupação maior é a vigilância na internet.
I think they are, yes. It’s nothing new, any country with the technical capability does this in one way or another. The methods just vary.
