What would have to happen for you to consider Nostr a failure and move on to other things?
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That it wouldn’t take off within 2-3 years
Wallet gardens, and that really can’t happen so we are good :)
Developers stop developing.
Developer searching for easy money 💰
It's envolving fairly well. What's still missing is (working) notifications, especially on mobile.
Takeoff will take some time. Look how long it took for Mastodon.
It is failed if it cannot work in China anymore.
Your profile pic cracks me up everytime i see you around 😁
No one using it would do it. Usenet style.
Though I don’t see that happening. I was never an active Twitter user, and then they broke it even more. Never been on Mastodon, although I wanted to, because I couldn’t decide on a server.
Nostr hits a perfect balance of things for me.
Good conversations disappear
Heh, fat fingers, this was supposed to be an answer to @fiatjaf directly 😅
When Jim Cramer joins
Any accident of life on the sociological level has an impact likely to lead an individual to project himself on another, without forgetting the aspect of the life story, after all these stages there is a hope of reconstruction in better or adapted everyone..., 🙏💜
Hard to imagine a scenario since I think it already works great as it is.
With growth will come more hive mind dumb-dumbs but they have a purpose too I suppose.
I’ll miss the days of screaming into the void though.
Quantum Computing making the encryption obsolete.
Dick pics all over the place, bots taking over the comment sections, DDoS like attacks on big relays.
A failure can be a booster please... Thank you for this question related to the individual dimension of societies and the 6 risks of social vulnerabilities, at all stages of the human spiral
A high level of censorship. The centralization of nostr services
Nothing is gonna stop me 😎✌️
When zapping stops!
@PABLOF7z quitting 😅
not happening
Can’t quit bitcoin.
Deep in my heart I knew it. We’re all good.
If the network of participants and apps stop growing.
Very good question, I am still thinking through it, but here are some preliminary thoughts.
I think that spam will become a much bigger problem as Nostr grows. Obviously we will need a way to manage that to stay successful. Since Nostr is permissionless, the onus for spam filtering will fall on relays and end users. With the advent of ChatGPT and successors enabling the generation of infinite variations of natural language, that approach seems likely to fail. I therefore consider it likely that Nostr will turn to the concept of value-as-a-filter; only content with a sufficient amount of sats attached to it will reach its intended audience. It is not clear to me if this is very hard to achieve. Maybe there are simple/organic ways in which this can happen (e.g. just by getting "zapped to the top"). But I would consider Nostr a failure if it takes a large degree of luck for an outsider with great content but no sats to grow their reach in an efficient way.
Damus and Snort relay carrying most of the events
I wouldn't move on to other things, I would code to try and improve things, but that would mean nostr is failing and easily destroyable
Centralization around one or two clients. Centralization around one or two relays. Fiatjaf announcing that he's going to make Nostr Fiatjaf's Vision.
75% of our services would stop working 🤣
What do you think about a pay-to-comment mechanism like Stacker News uses?
The payment for one comment is incredibly low, but many comments in a short period of time can become costly.
Perhaps users could set their own price to comment on their posts.
Which implies a 75% saving for the people to grow industries by and all those professionals to have a private sector to make a living by with much lower taxes making ends meet.
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Lack of relay
Cramer tells people to invest in nostr companies
If people stop saying gm
Good morning 🌞
The same thing that happened with Jabber. Tons of stupid protocol extensions, proprietary servers from huge corporations, various clients that don't support each other's features.
😂
bookstr is banned 😉
We already have quantum-safe signing algos, we just won't be able to trust historical tweets.
😂 you can collects my NFTs 😂
Lack of users. Since the Forbes articles in May, NOSTR is not receiving any PR, so nobody knows about NOSTR. When Threads launched there were hundreds of articles which all mentioned BlueSky, Mastadon and even other more minor networks, but NONE of the articles mentioned NOSTR. Rather than spending money to build more and more and more, NOSTR needs to spend money getting the word out! Otherwise it will be the best kept secret and all the enthusiastic developers will realize that they have built really cool things for a audience of 10,000. Some people may be happy just creating something cool for a very small group but the reality is that everyone also has to eventually make money to support their families. We already see early adopters like Cameri leaving NOSTR because of economic hardship. If a hardcore person like Cameri can't afford to pay $300 a month for his relay, how many others are going to stick it out? #grownostr
tweets??
Wouldn’t there be a way to re-sign them all?
If someone reworked the nostr protocol to be over RSS instead and also people used the iteration.
Also just, if my feed were no longer interesting in general and people were moving on to other things.
Loading content worse than now.
Shutting down all unpaid relays.
Remove User option.
Shutting down free relays
Nostr coin
Lol 😂. I'll skip on that, no offense.
Some other protocol would have to leapfrog it by accomplishing all the same things while also solving other challenges like decentralized file sharing
That is a very difficult question
Censorship of content and users. A.k.a. "content curation". Relays should only do one single thing: RELAY.
😂😂😂 didn't even notice. You're right : notes.
I mean sure, you could resign them all. But is everyone going to go back and manually check every one of them to make sure it wasn't spoofed before resigning ?
Also, what about people who didn't resign ? It's just a mess tbh.
Wasn't that already the case? The apps are banned, many relays are blocked. I'm with you on this one
No worries as long I am Usable 😂😂😂😂
Wokes not coming in.
being liked by fiatjaf
Clients implementing competing standards rather than interoperable ones
If it has long term value you would. If it’s not resigned, clients can add a warning and a “ask author for verification” button perhaps
That it somehow be co-opted, somehow controlled by big corpos or govt.
Advertising, an algorithm that curates the timeline for me, centralisation.
If bitcoiners are the only people using it within the next few years.
Alternative which is obviously better and used more.
Flagging adoption, dwindling engagement
This is important.
O hai @Blockstream Thank you
3 things:
censorship and shadow-bans on relays / front-ends
too little user engagement
too high fees for writing to relays
still can find few relays work.
Nothing. I need the comfort of an echo chamber or the warm embrace of a cult to go on.