Primal is one of the least functional clients, especially considering the resources used to build it.
Regardless of that, the real reason we dont have more users is nostr.com which i control, its the landing page for nostr, its where you go googling nostr. We get 1-2m unique views per week who all get scared away.
A beautiful industry of solutions hidden behind a shitty landing page.
Resources has always been our issue, we spend most of what we have maintaining LNbits, so nostr.com is a second thought. We also didnt want to be seen to be capturing users by hosting a client, but that time has passed, I think its possible to do and still funnel users into wider ecosystem.
Its quite remarkable this clear bottleneck isn't more obvious for an industry that had had huge sums invested. Its so obvious.
nostr.com should have a team of dedicated devs, focus groups, ux designers, instead its me squeezing in time every now and then. So yeah. Weird.
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Hi Ben, please check your DMs.
I'd be happy to help you sharpen the copy for nostr.com.
Freedom is my mission too.
Primal lacks features (lists, proper DMs, ...), but I find it very enjoyable TBH. It will get there.
I wish cashing servers were a standard by now, run by many different actors, keeping each other honest.
Nostr.com looks good already! Worth investing some designer's time and polish it, for sure.
Its the newb ux. If youre a Brazilian looking for a new home compare nostr dot com to bluesky. Nostr dot com should just be a simple client, and link to the current content (which we will prob put on nostr dot org).
Current ux of technobabbling to newbs is just losing us users, millions upon millions looking at the stats
> the real reason we dont have more users is nostr.com which i control
you should make it better then
Clearly. Thats what I just said 👍
All the effort in the world "fixing" broken clients is useless when landing page scares people away. Its just funny you and others dont see the simple fix, blaming everything but the landing page
Its also amazing a great client like Amethyst can exist, built on minimal resources and working great for years, whereas primal is only just becoming usable.
“Claude, make this landing page better and more inviting to normies”
I agree. What about just redirecting the traffic to any existing client?
Or maybe one of the clients agrees to build a specific landing page for users getting redirected from nostr.com
Why are people worried about catering Nostr to normies.
Make Nostr good in and of itself. Don't tweak it to please others.
Nostr only appeals to a small subset of social media users. Explosive growth was always going to be hard. Focus on retention and organic growth. I’ve used primal for at least 2 years because it works relatively well and has features I like. It’s really not that hard.
ready to help
