I just rolled 2x 16 sided dice + 1x 8 sided dice 300 times and fed the results in to Claude.
Apparently one of the 16 sided was biased and the final comment on the others was “you’ll be fine using them for a game but you’ll need to perform 500 more rolls if you want to be sure for anything important”
FFS
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Assuming they are not your seed dice - what was the frequency of each face?
Thank you.
Self custody, like freedom itself, is hard!
Compounding the fear and emotion, it used to be that single sig was sufficient.
Interesting how perceptions change.
I’ll be using HWW entropy.
I was planning to use them for the blockstream dice roll seed phrase determination. I performed then deleted the claude chat on my work machine don’t have access but from memory the “good dice” were not even spreads but acceptable. There were definitely higher counts for certain numbers. Not where you source pre tested dice but….
Do you remember the spread between the highest and the lowest frequency faces? One wouldn’t expect it to be perfectly even. And less so the more faces the dice have.
I don’t remember but my conclusion was that I don’t trust myself with the dice more that the N random factors a hardware wallet uses. Perhaps it is my knowledge level of probability and math that makes dice a bad option for me.
That's too many sides, you want 3d printed 100 dice or casino grade dice.
I have some casino dice maybe I’ll try those next or maybe I’ll just trust in the hardware wallet 🤔
Which one do you have?
Lots of different ones, a single failure won’t be an issue.
Whenever I’m bored i try new ones. Coldcard used to be my favorite, trezor always felt the best.
Did the LLM actually evaluate the numbers or did it just do its LLM thing and "language guess"?
What’s it supposed to say? “Awesome you’ve generated amazing entropy which you just gave me defeating the whole process of creating entropy?”
lol got heem
Have you messed with SeedSigner?
Yup I like my seed signer. Pretty high up the list.
So why don't you just execute a 3of3 where each seed is generated using a unique methodology.
1. Cut up bip39 word list into 2048 pieces, mix well, and select one by one until you got 23words picked at complete random, using one of your capable devices to generate the 24th word.
2. 100 dice rolls.
3. SeedSigner camera RNG seed generator
4. RNG on Trezor, Foundation, etc..
#4 can be split into multiple as each RNG behaves a bit differently.
You have many options here.
True there are many options. I’ve never tried the cut up BIP 39 word list before. I guess I’m also just self assessing that just using the RNG from multiple devices is perhaps more random than a badly executed manual method.
Doing it 3 different ways is elite,
One manual method thrown in there is amazing,
One semi manual (dice, camera) in addition is incredible.
This takes the randomness in your equation to another level.
