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If some people want to use Monero to support flash :
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Interesting to use privacy money for a highly KYC'd product?
I was just going to mention this. Buys holiday with Monero, provides name, DOB, passport number etc🤦🏻♂️😂.
xmr people are larps about privacy and just have bitcoin derangement syndrome worse than nocoiners 🤣
That's what I thought. In the US we have the option to scan our faces at the airport. We can refuse, but we still have to show ID.
Why would anyone use Monero for this?
You’ll find any and every opportunity to shit on objectively better money than EBSC and even ACTUAL Bitcoin, but then turn around and claim Monero evangelists (whom still are far less insufferable than EBSC NGU hypemen and the “defenders” of Dash Jr’s companion shitcoin) are the obsessed ones.
Dunning, meet Kruger.
@npub15axs...4hv7 is correct. No dunning Kruger.
Stop 🛑 shilling Zcash so hard brah
I didn’t mention Zcash at all, nor have I ever said anything positive about it.
Dumb fucking bot.
I don’t search for opportunities to call out the bullshit spread by monero bros on here…their propaganda is all over this place 🤣
Does a person need to KYC themselves to Epic when making the purchase? Or just at the hotal or airport? Serious question, I don't know anything about Epic
I’m not a bot. I just know a closeted Z Cash person that shills Monero when I see one. ☝🏼 that’s you, brother.
No way the obvious honeypot is an actual honeypot
Like Meyer, once again you have nothing worthwhile to add to the conversation.
This is becoming extremely predictable.
Use ants.sh and come back to me if you find ANY positive mention or reply regarding Zcash from me.
I’ll fucking wait.
If they do it the way Travala does, you only need to provide a name and email address.
And hey, newsflash
There are still good reasons to use a privacy coin for a kyced purchase.
Why?
Because in addition to giving your ID to the hotel or airline you SHOULD give it to the payment processor also?
Please explain how using monero to buy plane tickets is good for privacy?
As opposed to what? Your credit card? Bitcoin?
OBVIOUSLY there are still privacy advantages *from the payment processor*
(EVEN if the merchant still needs kyc)
Its really sad y'all don't understand this.
I don't understand the discussion. The more ways to spend crypto, the better, even if you don't want to use it this way. But I don't know, I only have KYC bitcoin and report every single movement to the taxman.
AI slop warning :
It seems paradoxical at first, but there's a real distinction.
**The short version:** showing ID links the purchase to *you* at the merchant. A private payment method prevents the purchase from also being linked to *you* at your bank, the payment network, and downstream data buyers. You're not achieving anonymity — you're reducing the number of separate parties who hold the full chain.
**The specific advantages:**
1. **Your bank doesn't learn what you bought.** With a card, your bank sees the merchant, amount, and date — and banks categorize, retain, and sometimes sell transaction data. Cash means the bank only sees an ATM withdrawal (or nothing at all if you already had cash).
2. **No payment-network record.** Visa/Mastercard/Amex independently log every transaction. That's another structured, searchable, long-retained database linking you to the purchase. Cash or prepaid eliminates that.
3. **Data brokers lose a feed.** Credit card transaction data is actively sold to data brokers and aggregators. Merchant ID logs generally aren't (yet). So the "who bought what" data that circulates in the commercial data economy is reduced.
4. **Smaller breach surface.** The merchant might get breached regardless (they have your ID info). But paying cash means there's no *additional* breach surface at the payment processor, and no card number to steal.
5. **Weaker forensic trail.** Bank records are structured, easily subpoenaed, and kept for years. A merchant's ID-check log — if one even exists — is typically less structured, harder to search across merchants, and may be purged on a shorter schedule.
**The honest caveat:** if the merchant logs your ID alongside the item purchased and retains that log, the privacy gain is partial. You've reduced *propagation* (fewer parties, less structured data) but not the core fact that the merchant knows. It's defense in depth, not a wall.
So: the advantage isn't "nobody knows" — it's "fewer parties know, in less durable formats, with less ability to aggregate across your other purchases." Whether that's worth the hassle depends on what you're buying and who you're worried about.
We've been using privacy money to purchase highly KYC'd products for 1000's of years. Cash doesn't attach your name to it.
What's interesting is how some people now think KYC currency is somehow acceptable.
We are not pretending that spending on a credit card or bitcoin are privacy solutions
Using monero to buy a plane ticket makes zero sense if you are using monero for privacy
But obviously there are privacy advantages to using monero or cash or gift cards or whatever over those other payment methods.
And the fact you refuse to acknowledge it indicates YOUR OWN derangement syndrome, not ours.
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Truly great news
You're right. Using Monero is pointless if your identification is going to picked up by:
- the airline (booking details)
- border control (passport) and
- hotel (registration sign in).