Can’t believe I recommended Phoenix wallet
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Same
I did the same at some point too, brother. Live and learn.
It's a great wallet, pitty they are leaving the US.
Damn I've been busy. What happened Now??
I can't believe I recommended lightning non custodial.
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Nuking their services in the USA
Why is Phoenix bad at this point? I haven’t been following tbh
Nothing wrong with that, they have a great self custodial product but having the biggest node on the network also puts a big target on their back. Doesn’t mean they should have made this decision ..
It fucking sucks big time to reach out to the people you have recommended it to.
Mutiny seems to be the way to go for now. I love that there are no fees when joining a federation
Cause they don’t give a fuck and not standing up. Making a bad precedent
I guess they are being threatened?
By FBI twitter dumb post ?
I'm just making assumptions. Why else would they pull from the states? Wouldn't having customers be in their best interests?
WoS also withdrew service to US users but I assume it wasn't a choice they made willingly
They knew what is coming and decided not participate in the fight. Don’t get me wrong i understand this moves and what is on the table
Now I gotta find the merchants I onboarded and help them out. Thank you for your service 🫂
You’re a good guy
just use the .apk with vpn mullvad and fake gps and you will be fine
Just use Zeus or mutiny
To be fair though, this is a fight the Americans have to do themselves. It's not up to foreign companies to resist and face prison to fight against laws the American people have voted for, and continue to vote for.
It's entirely up to the American people to change their government themselves, and very cowardly of them to demand foreign companies fight a fight they're not willing to fight themselves.
If Americans aren't going to stand up for themselves, wtf should anyone else?
All these people abusing Phoenix, calling them cowards, why aren't they abusing their government? Is it because their government will do to them what they are doing to children protesting at universities if they dare complain?
You are right. This is our fight
I understand your perspective, however it's not quite so simple to just vote this problem away. There are significantly more steps involved than just voting.
Sure. Still, it's no one else's problem. All the abuse that Phoenix has received is absolutely wrong. Americans need to focus that anger where it belongs, with themselves for choosing the government they have.
Nothing Phoenix is doing is a crime. They folded with zero pressure. They will do it again in other countries sooner or later. Yes they can do what they want and I expect nobody to take a proverbial bullet for me, but I am free to say they are fucking cowards and fuck them for wasting the money I just spent a couple months ago setting up with them.
You lost funds?
No but it costs money to set up and buy inbound and now I gotta start all over again and spend more money. Fuck them. What they gonna do when EU bans self-custody like has been openly discussed? Same thing. They have shown their true colors. How could they be trusted ever again?
So that's why the EU has to be reformed and the pirates party which is pro privacy needs more votes. Watching from the sideline and hoping for the best or to not care about politics has this result.
Well said.
The problem is that the US operates under an imperial system that trumps international laws, jurisdictions and borders. You just saw this: the governments of Iceland and Portugal enforcing the orders of the US government for stuff that isn't even criminal.
Hmm it’s taken from 2 stores. 2 stores that have the market for nearly all mobile phone apps.
Maybe that’s the problem? It’s not the only problem but having a duopoly for app developers is a bad model.
Better to leave USA than to enforce KYC or get jailed. They will continue to develop abroad and return to USA later like a boomerang.
No, most ppl did not vote for this LMAO
But it will be our fight
That's the very true and worrying part!
turns out everyone is under american rule if you need the dollar. even still id rather be outside the US borders to reduce the frequency and severity by which they can fuck with me and my loved ones.
Yea that aint gonna happen. No election, no politician, will ever change a thing. Every election makes things worse. You cant vote your way out of tyranny
I guess we thought bitcoin companies would be different in this way.
And what will Phoenix do when they face similar pressures in the EU? Their recent actions do not inspire confidence.
I stopped recommending lightning wallets after I onboarded 2 people to wallet of Satoshi a week before they shut down in the US…
This is the real problem, we personally can always find and alternative and are on top of things, but to on-board normies it get problematic in such unstable environment, no LN wallet is safe to on-board.
when fedimint onboarding 😴
I almost had a meetup last week to show people how to get sats on Phoenix because on-chain fees were high. Dodged that bullet!
Freedom is everyone’s fight