Everyone was too busy focusing on postmix tools to realize you don't need a postmix tool if everything can happen in a mix! PSA: @BTCPay Server with the coinjoin plugin has been able to handle payment batching in coinjoin directly since day one of its release. And a (not so) secret project that I have been working on for years will soon transform coinjoins into one of the best payment protocols out there with massive cost savings and privacy gains for everyone involved Previous mentions about this:
lontivero's avatar lontivero
Payment in coinjoins is even simpler than that: you just schedule as many payments as you want and they will be done in one or more coinjoins. So, instead of registering scripts that belong to you, you register scripts that belong to the payees. Nothing is more private than that, at least in Bitcoin. Also, there is a market for coordinators but you cannot compete for fee but for liquidity, time, minimum output size, leftovers, etc. We just fixed one variable, all the rest are still there. And the most important part: you don't need to trust on how trustworthy the coordinators are, they can't take you money and run. View quoted note โ†’
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It's my fault for the lack of awareness. I don't promote my work much because I feel my time is best spent researching and building the tech. I rely on people to discover, understand and help promote it, which hasn't been very effective so maybe this is where I should change. Iโ€™m better with code than with words though, as the quote goes. ๐Ÿ˜ This plugin is something I took on myself to develop but it was only the first step in the grand scheme of things. Zksnacks supported me immensely and we were going to take over the world, where every spend was actually a coinjoin, until the samourai situation unfolded. There's still hope, but it will have to execute differently now. The tech is sound and is agnostic of use, whether it is privacy, scaling, or both. Just need to get the message across to get the right resources and connections.
In some cases it's better to avoid payments in coinjoin transactions. Payjoin or Octojoin works better in such situations because less or no coordination and transactions look normal. Also wabisabi isn't the only implementation that allows payments in coinjoin. You can achieve the same with joinmarket and joinstr.
kukks's avatar kukks
Everyone was too busy focusing on postmix tools to realize you don't need a postmix tool if everything can happen in a mix! PSA: @BTCPay Server with the coinjoin plugin has been able to handle payment batching in coinjoin directly since day one of its release. And a (not so) secret project that I have been working on for years will soon transform coinjoins into one of the best payment protocols out there with massive cost savings and privacy gains for everyone involved View quoted note โ†’ Previous mentions about this:
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