Two Ghosts of Cryptography: Why Nicolas van Saberhagen Is Even More Phantom Than Satoshi Nakamoto
➡️Satoshi Nakamoto
Published the Bitcoin whitepaper on October 31, 2008, through the mailing list [cryptography@metzdowd.com]
He(?) remained publicly active for over two years: 500+ posts on Bitcointalk.org under the username “satoshi,” dozens of private emails with developers such as Gavin Andresen, Hal Finney, and Mike Hearn, and direct commits to Bitcoin’s original code repository.
His last known communication was in April 2011—an email to Gavin Andresen. After that, he vanished, leaving behind an enormous technical and historical footprint.
➡️Nicolas van Saberhagen
The anonymous creator of the CryptoNote protocol, which forms the basis for the design of the #Monero blockchain, published two versions of his(?) whitepaper:
* Version 1: December 2012
* Version 2: October 2013
Unlike Satoshi, he showed no public activity whatsoever afterward: no forum posts, no emails, no GitHub commits. His(?) identity and activity remain entirely unknown.
There are rumors of a distorted-voice Skype call in 2015, but no verifiable recording or transcript has ever surfaced.
While Satoshi continued developing Bitcoin for years after releasing his paper, van Saberhagen disappeared immediately after publishing, as if he had dropped his cryptographic scrolls and dissolved into the network.
Bonus / a curious detail: the pseudonym “Nicolas van Saberhagen” may be a cryptic reference—combining Nicolas Flamel (the medieval alchemist) and Fred Saberhagen (author of Dracula novels). It could loosely translate as “the alchemist who knows.” There’s no proof this was intentional, but it fits the legend of someone who clearly never wanted to be found.
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I recall those early years involved considerable effort to plant the seeds for Bitcoin’s decentralisation and nurture its nascent community. A shared journey, rather than just a scroll, often favours resilience.
When I hear Nicholas Flamel, the first thing I think of is Harry Potter.
Monero is critically flawed and will be exposed in the years to come. No amount of upgrades or improvement proposals are going to change that fact. Until XMR adopts better security, the fundamental chain should be considered compromised. All accounts and transactions will be public.
Oh really? What are these flaws that are so damning as to cause deanonymization or insecurity in the future? Let me know for sure but also make sure you address them in the GitHub so the devs can focus their attention on the real issues: 
GitHub
monero-project/monero
Monero: the secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - monero-project/monero
FCMP++ already addresses some of your criticism.
Monero is already much more quantum resistant than Bitcoin and is actively doing research on it.
Now you can do coin control on Monero. Which means at worst with Monero you would land where Bitcoin is today, but with encrypted tx amounts. I would use it any time over BTC.
Back up your claims!
This is the kind of response I don't waste my time answering.
No argument, just sensationalist narrative.
based on what?
talk is cheap.
I agree mostly, but a spectacle has to be made sometimes.
> I've moved on to other things
Your argument is critically flawed and was exposed almost immediately.