L2 will not scale to mass adoption, as the block size has a limit on the number of channels it can support. Scaling will require L3 such as ecash and the like for regular plebes. This is nothing more than a paper IOU. The game theory leads to fractional reserve minting, as custodians lower fees and offer more incentives to compete for customers. Watch what happens to the market when mint runs start snowballing.

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First "iT wOn'T sCaLe" is more BCH/BSV retard fud. It will scale for a hell of a long time before any further scale is required. We are nowhere near "hYpeRbiTcOiNiZatiON" and we will not be for a very very long time. Second eCash is for small amounts, I DGAF that I could lose a few hundred bucks at most and frankly with tech like ARK coming you are talking may be 48 hours of even that risk. And once again like so many, when your bullshit is corrected you are changing the debate. What the fuck is it with people's need for logical fallacy when they are losing a debate, lose and learn go together. The discussion here was not about risk of loss it was simply is L2 and L3 fractional reserve? The answer to that is either, 1. No, full stop. No explanation needed. 2. Yes, meaning you don't know either what fractional reserve is or you don't know shit about how L2 and L3 work, take your pick. Either way you are wrong. Fractional reserve is about LENDING MONEY INTO EXISTENCE. Not that you trust a third party. There are many ways to trust without lending and without inflation. How about you either show me how L2/L3 inflates available sats or you admit you are full of shit? Otherwise let's lay some money on this. 🤷 I mean just stop with the red hearing bullshit here. We stated out talking about fractional reserve and ended up discussing trust and scaling. Typical shitcoiner 🐂 💩. I just smell a stack of Dodge or BSV on you. 😂
Who said I was losing, lol. Looks like you can't handle the difficult questions. I came here to learn. Rather than trying to dunk, maybe you could try to educate rather than score points. Triggered 🤣
Layers are the only way to scale a networking system. Every previous monetary and networking structure in history has done this same thing. There is no reason L2 or L-whatever has to be an IOU. Sure people will use them because trust is the foundation of society. There isn’t anything wrong with IOUs, the problem is **systemic, fraudulent IOUs** that are counterfeit into the market indistinguishable from the money itself. Fractional reserve is a systemic structure of our money. Fractional reserve in a bitcoin world is explicitly external to the money. MtGox was fractional reserve. FTX was fractional reserve. It’s not a matter of “we’re gonna get fractional reserve.” We’ve had it from the very beginning, and we have seen the results 100 times. They implode and go out of business. The systemic problem of fiat is that they do NOT impose, but grow like a cancer because the money itself is cheated to keep them alive. In short, your concerns are not really relevant, because the base layer is always present to prove existence, validity, and ownership of bitcoins. That will make it behave like a global decentralized incorruptible court for who owns what. Thus we will extremely likely (and are already doing) build 10,000 networks *on top* of #Bitcoin. But there are a literally limitless number of way to extend the trust of the base layer, up to any and all other layers. Ark is a great example, all transactions off chain, every single user has unilateral exit ability. Bitcoin will have no problem scaling because it’s an open, permissionless protocol. The base layer simply needs to be reliable, solid, and radically neutral, and there will be nothing that we cannot do with it. Human ingenuity doesn’t have a hard cap.
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the axiom 1 year ago
fractional reserve doesn't equal insolvency