Everyone should have due process back where they are from 100%

It requires some process to determine where a particular person is from, including if they are from here or elsewhere.

Absolutely wild take! 😉

Deport him! No due process!

100%

Yep, would be pretty bad if they were deporting random people off the street. Silver lining from having a surveillance state that knows everything about you.

This'll piss off the hornets nest. Thank you for speaking up. It sometimes feels lonely to be on nostr and really care about individual liberties.

Agreed, for both sides.

"Constitutional rights are the rights of the United States’ people concerning the government’s actions and responsibilities." One does not have to be a US citizen to have these rights, one just needs to be on US ground. Right? I think I heard this from Judge Napolitano. Quite a proponent of upholding the constitution. However not many people talk about constitutional rights, they are conveniently forgotten and stepped over by government and US citizens...

But practically, is that feasible when illegal immigration goes unchecked for four years and you have millions of people to process? Seems to me that that becomes a point of failure that is being exploited. Bury the other political party with an insurmountable amount of work and endless negative publicity.

But practically, is that feasible when illegal immigration goes unchecked for four years and you have millions of people to process? Seems to me that that becomes a point of failure that is being exploited. Bury the other political party with an insurmountable amount of work and endless negative publicity.

Everyone wants to turn around their country like ES did, but no one wants to do what it takes

How long to determine how they arrived?

More people were deported under Biden, with due process, than under Trump's first term. Same with Obama. So who really let illegal immigration go unchecked more?

Where was due process for the Jan6 American citizens

Governments often like to use crises as a pretext for taking away civil liberties. There are plenty of ways to reduce illegal immigration and pressure illegal immigrants to leave, and even deport many of them, without violating due process.

Deport who?

They all got their day in court.

I'm a fan of trite evocative comments lacking all context.

It’s so wild to that a country populated by immigrants can be so intolerant to immigrants.

America was created by settlers who built a nation from scratch, which is a tad bit different from Guatemalans walking across the border in the year 2025. With that understanding of the world and history, I’m sure you’re constantly bewildered

What if they're not white?

I don't want to turn around my country like ES did. That is a human rights nightmare.

So do you support native Americans coming off the reservations and deporting you to wherever your family immigrated from? With that understanding... You know the rest.

Without due process, freedom is just a slogan

What in the Abe Lincoln is going on?

Freedom for me and not for thee is not freedom. Keep fighting the good fight

I was too until a week ago. It‘s one of the broken things of democracy. If influx is cheap and outflow expensive the importing government overrules the deporting one and the will of the people at that time. If the citizens decide that its more important to correct this imbalance than their own rights not acting will probably only increase that tension.

Invasions have, historically, not been repelled using the judicial system, nor can they be, nor should they be.

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It's a slippery slope, which is not actually a logical fallacy when this begins. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/25/us-citizen-deportation-donald-trump-00311631

Should I expect a decade of due process if I decided to go live in Norway illegally?

Just like trade deficits - immigration was accepted and embraced a long time ago, as a win-win for everyone living here. It benefits all of us.

Not necessarily a decade, but otherwise yes, you can and should expect due process

If justice was not blind (in some cases deaf and dumb as well) The corrupt will never see the corruption. View quoted note →

This.

If they had the ability, they would have sent the settlers back to England, but they didn’t, so you know the rest. Native Americans didn’t built shit let alone the most powerful nation the world has ever seen. They were mostly nomadic tribes, but nice try lol “bUt WhAt AbOuT nAtIvE aMeRiCaNs”

Lol

The blue collar U.S. citizen that dares to speak his mind

You mean the mob sent by Trump who beat cops, smashed windows to enter the Capitol and shat on the Speaker’s desk? Great candidates for El Salvador if you ask me.

Estimates range from 12 - 15 MILLION undocumented immigrants living in the US. I welcome legal immigrants, but what other country would allow so many unofficial residents? Canada? Australia? Japan? Germany? I doubt it.

So the fact that Latin Americans continually migrate for decades and European settlers have failed to stop it shows that the european settlers are the new incompetents who don't deserve the land like the native americans before. Gotcha.

Have you listened to the latest Common Sense with Dan Carlin Lyn? Carlin was the first person I ever sent bitcoin to and he's been talking about civil liberties being stripped away for 30 years. He calls this his bias. He read a letter from Abraham Lincoln to William H. Herndon, 15 February 1848. It's a powerful letter and I've been thinking about it in the context of the new administration ever sense. Trump is taking the opposite side of the first Republican president on this issue. I would love to hear your thoughts about it. "Dear William: Your letter of the 29th January was received last night- Being exclusively a constitutional argument, I wish to submit some reflections upon it in the same spirit of kindness that I know actuates you– Let me first state what I understand to be your position– It is, that if it shall become necessary, to repel invasion, the President may, without violation of the constitution, cross the line, and invade the teritory of another country; and that whether such necessity exists in any given case, the President is to be the sole judge– Before going further, consider well whether this is, or is not your position– If it is, it is a position that neither the President himself, nor any friend of his, so far as I know, has ever taken– Their only positions are first, that the soil was ours where hostilities commenced, and second, that whether it was rightfully ours or not, Congress had annexed it, and the President, for that reason was bound to defend it, both of which are as clearly proved to be false in fact, as you can prove that your house is not mine. That soil was not ours; and Congress did not annex or attempt to (Page 2) annex it– But to return to your position: Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, is to and you allow him to do so, whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose– and you allow him to make war at pleasure– Study to see if you can fix any limit to his power in this respect, after you have given him so much as you propose– If, to-day, he should choose to say he thinks it necessary to invade Canada, to prevent the British from invading us, how could you stop him? You may say to him, "I see no probability of the British invading us" but he will say to you "be silent; I see it, if you dont"– The provision of the Constitution giving the war-making power to Congress, was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons—Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object– This, our convention understood to be the most oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us– But your view destroys the whole matter, and places our President where Kings have always stood. Write soon again– Yours truly, A Lincoln"

Without due process anyone can be labeled a terrorist and thrown in jail. Insane that anyone who even pretends to care about “freedom” can be dumb enough to not realize that. Think about all the politicians you don’t like having that power.

I agree. But what does that have to do with due process?

“due process” is a term leftists like to throw around when their “Maryland Man” narrative broke down. Same with the word “democracy”.

One would hope there would be due process to make sure you are indeed there illegally and are not in fact Norwegian. If it takes a decade then that’s another matter.

What kind of Nazi horse shit take is that

Yes, whatever it takes.

Oh wait.. there’s the other one leftists love to use as well, “Nazi”! Thanks for reminding me! You can now go back to drawing your swastikas.

From my understanding, those numbers were greatly distorted because they were counting turnaway’s as deportations. That is no longer happening.

I suppose it’s how we define it. If someone is caught with no documentation, they have a right to a hearing before deportation in case they’ve lost their papers or there’s some administrative mistake. Fine. But years of release during multiple appeals should be out.

In theory due process sounds like the right thing but have you seen due process in the States? It's a shit show. Without a costly lawyer to defend you from the judicial tyrants the end result will likely be the same. I'm guessing most immigrants are not able to afford that kind of help. I'm not suggesting skip due process... simply that in this case it won't matter much.

You can't expect the State to respect any liberties nowadays.

Ah, yes, that core leftist principle of... Taking people to court before enacting punishments on them? Clown ass motherfucker.

Looks like I triggered the leftist😂 Resorting to name-calling already? Too soon little buddy. #winning