To summarize, Israel is not a racial people ; its everyone who belongs to God. I'm pretty sure he didn't mention Jesus (don't remember), but if Israel is the body of believers, then Israel is synonymous with Christ or Logos, depending on how those words are being used. That wasn't that guy saying that, but I think it follows. One important thing, for me, was learning that not all Jews are Zionists. They don't all want a nation state, and definitely don't all want genocide there. Some have specifically chosen not to immigrate to there because they don't think Israel means a nation state. A nation, sure, but that's super vague, and the concept of a nation state didn't even exist until the Peace of Westphalia, just a couple hundred years ago, and even then it wasn't really until ww1 that nation states became ethnic nation states. So Israel simply can't mean what the Zionists want it to mean.

I recently heard someone say, and I think it's true, You don't interpret the New Testament in light of the Old Testament, but rather you interpret the Old Testament in light of the New Testament. A big disagreement that I could see between Michael Brown and Steve Gregg is that Michael Brown takes many of the Old Testament prophecies literally and therefore says they have not yet been fulfilled. Steve Gregg takes them spiritually and therefore says that they have been fulfilled in Christ Jesus. So the question is, who is interpreting the scriptures correctly?