I had a chat with @preston about Bitcoin, Cashu, nostr, and privacy, and it was pretty good!
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CALLE INTERVIEW?!?! watching now
your voice is so cool 🥰
Lookin’ forward to this one 🤙🏼
Nice podcast about Ecash
I had a chat with @preston about Bitcoin, Cashu, nostr, and privacy, and it was pretty good!
Thank you for having me 🫡
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Hey @calle you are outdated about nostr relays we have relays that communicate with other relays here is one example
Introducing HAVEN - The Ultimate Relay For Sovereign Individuals
HAVEN (High Availability Vault for Events on Nostr) is the next evolution of personal relays that take self sovereignty and decentralization to the next level.
https://github.com/bitvora/haven
It's a 4-in-1 Relay with:
- Private Relay - for your drafts, ecash/nutsacks and anything else only you should be able to see
- Chat Relay - for your web of trust to be able to send you DMs or to host private group chats.
- Inbox Relay - for people to send reactions, zaps and likes to your notes. It also pulls these notes from other relays in real time. Protected by web of trust
- Outbox Relay - for others to read from. This will contain all the notes that only you publish. Anyone can read, only you can write. Every note sent to your outbox relay will be BLASTR'd to other relays.
It also has many SMART relay features, including:
- It imports all your old notes to your outbox relay, and imports any note you're tagged in to your inbox relay
- It protects your relays using your Web of Trust
- It automatically backs up all your notes to a 3rd party cloud (currently only AWS S3 support - more soon™)
- It blastr's your notes to other relays
Amethyst users will love this relay because it gives you every relay you need to complete the relay configuration.
It is my hope with this relay that we can significantly increase the decentralization of Nostr by giving people an extremely powerful and reliable personal relay that gives them control over the longevity and privacy of their notes. With more people running personal relays, clients should be more inclined to implement the outbox/inbox model.
You can see HAVEN in action on my personal relay:
- wss://relay.utxo.one/outbox
- wss://relay.utxo.one/inbox
- wss://relay.utxo.one/chat
- wss://relay.utxo.one/private
I am extremely excited about this release and can't wait to see what the nostriches think of it!
To get started, follow the instructions in the README here:
https://github.com/bitvora/haven
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HAVEN (High Availability Vault for Events on Nostr) is the next evolution of personal relays that take self sovereignty and decentralization to the next level.
https://github.com/bitvora/haven
It's a 4-in-1 Relay with:
- Private Relay - for your drafts, ecash/nutsacks and anything else only you should be able to see
- Chat Relay - for your web of trust to be able to send you DMs or to host private group chats.
- Inbox Relay - for people to send reactions, zaps and likes to your notes. It also pulls these notes from other relays in real time. Protected by web of trust
- Outbox Relay - for others to read from. This will contain all the notes that only you publish. Anyone can read, only you can write. Every note sent to your outbox relay will be BLASTR'd to other relays.
It also has many SMART relay features, including:
- It imports all your old notes to your outbox relay, and imports any note you're tagged in to your inbox relay
- It protects your relays using your Web of Trust
- It automatically backs up all your notes to a 3rd party cloud (currently only AWS S3 support - more soon™)
- It blastr's your notes to other relays
Amethyst users will love this relay because it gives you every relay you need to complete the relay configuration.
It is my hope with this relay that we can significantly increase the decentralization of Nostr by giving people an extremely powerful and reliable personal relay that gives them control over the longevity and privacy of their notes. With more people running personal relays, clients should be more inclined to implement the outbox/inbox model.
You can see HAVEN in action on my personal relay:
- wss://relay.utxo.one/outbox
- wss://relay.utxo.one/inbox
- wss://relay.utxo.one/chat
- wss://relay.utxo.one/private
I am extremely excited about this release and can't wait to see what the nostriches think of it!
To get started, follow the instructions in the README here:
https://github.com/bitvora/haven
Great one 👏
I did this portrait of you while listening.
Great interview. I watched Ben’s tutorial on YT and had it installed, joined a mint, funded and seed phrase secured in about 10 minutes. One thousand times easier than opening a fiat bank account. It really is like having a bank in your pocket. Thanks for your efforts they are much appreciated.
update: Half an hour in some of the tradeoffs and limitations are being discussed. It's being clearly stated that cashu can't be expected to improve bitcoin from the way it's supposed to be used (permissionless unruggability)
Why is this not on fountain?
https://fountain.fm/episode/YR2aZnYUShMQ5uDSlT7a
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My dumb dumb "unruggability" solution is to regularly take my sats out of the mints I use (only leaving "spending money" in the mints). Cashu is so slick, if users get used to moving out the sats, the mints are forced to act responsibly
Not invincible, but Cashu is a great addition to the mix of private payment solutions
This was a really good episode. Thanks for doing it.
Nice and interesting podcast 👏🔥
This is a good strategy
I freaking love this! Thank you, what an honor.
How does this relay sync with other relays?
My pleasure!
Good to listen to this. It is a widely misunderstood concept that Cashu/Fedimint is a scaling solution rather than a privacy enhancing and custodial lightning solution
@calle you were great 👍
Wow, you got his face just right!
Proof of work
Calle I loved the podcast and I agree that it would be nice if bitcoin discussions were had on nostr rather than twitter. But in the podcast you mentioned that a problem with nostr is the synchronization of relays. How could a coherent discussion about bitcoin happen here if communication is disjointed?
Well shucks!
Incredibly difficult, gonna go for Uncle Rockstar next, might just recolor the mask to save paper.
Great conversation. I learned a lot. 🫂
It was great. At least I can say that I understand this a bit and need to test it.
GM, impressive and mind blowing conversation between two great minds. Thanks for the good star in my day.
I had a chat with @preston about Bitcoin, Cashu, nostr, and privacy, and it was pretty good!
Thank you for having me 🫡
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This was excellent.
I appreciate at the end the introduction to
Holepunch
The Peer to Peer Company
Loved this!
@preston I did one of you a while back 
Great conversation and answered many questions I had about ecash
Watched the video downloaded eNuts connected to mint filled my wallet….fast, learning the curve
Fixing the problem isn’t the problem filling the need people don’t know they have is.