I think Nostr has the potential to give parents more control and government less. The fucking way it should be. I say let the children come blow it up. They're ultimately better off here, in my opinion.

This is a parenting issue. Both TV and social media should be band by parents or at least extremely controlled access. When I was growing up, I wasn't even allow in the same room as the TV unless there was a show I was allowed to watch.

We have been skipping and whistling towards a posh form of totalitarianism in the UK for quite a few years now. Nostr does bring a little hope… Is it a crazy thought that Nostr could actually provide a sensible solution for digital ID in the future? You own it, instead of being owned through it… I may be talking nonsense, but if the aim wasn’t control in the first place, might there be something there?

This is ALL about the surveillance of ADULTS.

What a twat this guy is.

It is YOUR JOB as a parent to protect your children and decide what they can and cannot do. If you let the State decide what is best for your child, you abdicate your responsibility as a parent to a group of bureaucrats who doesn’t give a shit about your kid. Of course, this under 16 social media ban has nothing to do with “protecting the children.” If the UK government cared about “protecting the children” they’d have done something about the rampant rape gangs instead of covering it up and calling you a racist/fascist for noticing and arresting you for speaking about it. This under 16 social media ban is about destroying the ability for *anyone* to speak freely online. It’s about de-anonymizing the internet to ensure Wrongspeak can be punished to the fullest extent of the totalitarian law. The purpose is to make sure no one can talk about how much they hate the government and all the terrible things the government is foisting upon them against their will. This is part of the larger plan: ✅ Do terrible things that your citizens hate and make their lives worse and more dangerous. ✅ Realize people are talking about the terrible things and getting angry. ✅ Criminalize free speech. ✅ Realize you can’t control speech on the internet if people can post anonymously. ✅ Make a law to doxx *everyone* who uses social media and criminalize the anonymous use of social media (to “protect the children”) 🟧 Realize you can’t stop “under 16s” from using VPNs to post anonymously from countries that *aren’t* totalitarian hell holes. 🟧 Make a law to doxx *everyone* who uses VPNs. Criminalize the anonymous use of VPNs. Again, to “protect the children.” 🟧 [People posting anonymously about how much they hate the government intensifies] 🟧 Realize you still can’t stop people from finding ways around your totalitarian censors. 🟧 Make a law to doxx *everyone* at the **ISP** level. Criminalize anonymous use of the internet itself. You guessed it! It’s to “protect the children.” Maybe also to “stop right wing extremists from spreading hate and division” (i.e. noticing). “Protect the children” and some form of “stop terrorism” will be used interchangeably at this point. 🟧 Realize you STILL can’t stop people from finding ways around your totalitarian panopticon. People are creative and hate being controlled by totalitarians. The genie of open source software is already out of the bottle. People are more angry than ever. People still post anonymously. People organize. People take to the streets en masse. 🟧 The Totalitarian State must now shut down the Internet itself. Full nationwide blackout. Desperate times… it makes things worse. The tools to communicate without the internet already exist (e.g. Bitchat). The people have had enough. 🟧 The government is overthrown. The failure of the State is complete. Patriots rebuild from the ashes. NOTE: if a CBDC is already in use during this progression, it will be weaponized immediately to automatically freeze access to the financial system the moment someone breaks any of these totalitarian laws. View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note →

It's nice to hear the other side of the story, and not only the technical one, which is affecting everyone. The topic is indeed broad, spanning from privacy destruction, through exclusion, social experiments, disrmination, to behavioral changes of children alone who get a signal that sneaking past compliance is ok.

Actually are not the politician but big tech who want a login for anything with the excuse of child protection. They want it since they are big enough to harvest enough for their LLMs, and they do want to avoid the improbable possibility of a community made model on open data. They do want to own data but they do not want anything in public hands. That's why the current expensive hardware push and mandatory logins. To push people on cloud+mobile, remotely handled platforms you can't own, and to deprive people of the information. Unfortunately most still have to figure this move...

Exactly

It's hard because government regulate people's quarrels, so they need to been able to size money from a citizen and give them to another. Tribunals can't operate without such power. It's still possible though to limit government power on citizens will on scale, like a consensus protocol where the government can't avoid asking not can't ignore the citizens response. This is the best way we have to develop a substantial democracy, but we need a big enough Demos, who are not the people at a whole but just the active part of them in a society. Actually the Demos is dramatically reduced

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They are interested in children just enough to keep them from turning to alternative media with more truthful content. The rest is just so they know who is behind each post.

US is bringing in the exact same thing. It's called the Kids Online Safety Act in the US. Federal law.

Next they'll ban VPNs, and they already want to backdoor our phones... might as well be in North Korea. And the entire Western world has equivalent laws. Australia is already doing it. EU has the Digital Services Act. US is bringing in the Kids Online Safety Act. It's a globalist push.

The VPN point is where this gets messier…. the pressure to close every workaround becomes inevitable.

The bit that worries me is the mission creep…. Child safety becomes age verification, age verification becomes digital ID and digital ID becomes infrastructure for control.

That’s quite a jump…. I think the issue here is less firearms and more whether a free society should need identity checks to access speech, information and public debate online.

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I don’t think the debate is government versus no government. It’s how we build systems that preserve accountability, consent and individual freedoms while preventing power from becoming self reinforcing.

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Yes it is!!

VPN ban is already being debated in parliament too. Has been for months. Which will then push kids onto Tor, which is impossible to censor. They're gonna just lure kids to the darknet. But that doesn't really matter to them because it was never about children.

Maybe you’ll figure out eventually that a government needs to be kept in check by the armed population to prevent it from going full tyrannical. Or maybe you won’t. Only time will tell.