We just updated our #Bitcoin-backed loan agreement to make it crystal clear: Your #Bitcoin is never rehypothecated on Strike. Never has been, never will be.

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Great job of responding so quickly and clearly. That is a Bitcoin company. If Strike goes under theoretically(god forbid) what happens to the borrowers coins? Who has the custody?
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sauna 8 months ago
Further rehypothication.
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AtomicAkorn 8 months ago
Can your bank partners rehypothecate? You specifically said rehypothecated on strike. Maybe that's splitting hairs. But I had a near miss with Blockfi and only was barely saved because I took back custody of my Bitcoin after @ODELL sounded the alarm.
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SweedWick 8 months ago
LFG - this is what I was hoping for. Really glad to see acknowledgment and action in response. Wish more companies operated this way.
According to the AI “lawyers” at Chat GPT, there are potential loopholes in the new clause, here’s a tldr, but I’d suggest prompting the full section yourself and digging in. 1. “Subject to the capital provider’s terms” 2. “ultimately held in segregated wallets” allows for temporary pooling or indirect use 3. No definition of re-hypothecation and on-lent: does this include derivatives and what about cross-margining or internal leverage on the capital provider’s balance sheet. My take: No modern day lender wants straight consumer book yield, they want their regular dose of leveraged rolled-up steroids. You get a mortgage, your house itself is not re-hypothecated: but the land title is altered, and the lender can and does rehypothecate the mortgage itself, which is now backed by your/their house. This indirect mortgage re-hypothecation can cause a house of cards to be built atop an otherwise stable asset class, and when that house is big enough, stakeholders that are not the customer have direct incentives to manipulate the underlying asset to either stabilise or disrupt, for profit.
Sounds like an awesome product. Been thinking about this - in the future it will make much more sense to use your BTC as collateral for an house downpayment f.x. - because using a consumer good (house) as a collateral makes no sense in a hard money world and turns you into a debt slave.
Correct. "Further Rehypothecation"...meaning after the first round of rehypothecation? "Repledge" fits the spirit of the agreement but is still too vague. This is lawyer two stepping. Ask me how I know. @npub1ex7m...vyt9 has gotta tighten this up a bit. If their partners will let them which I doubt they will. We shall see. There are a couple other solutions suggested above re. proof of reserves. I trust @jack mallers intentions. He's a good dude. I would really like to give him all my business. Time will tell...
Correct. "Further Rehypothecation"...meaning after the first round of rehypothecation? "Repledge" fits the spirit of the agreement but is still too vague. This is lawyer two stepping. Ask me how I know. @npub1ex7m...vyt9 has gotta tighten this up a bit. If their partners will let them which I doubt they will. We shall see. There are a couple other solutions suggested above re. proof of reserves. I trust @jack mallers intentions. He's a good dude. I would really like to give him all my business. Time will tell...
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BDC 8 months ago
Umm. Where’s my PoR multisig address to verify?!?
it´s just a matter of time until you change the rules, don´t play dumb NYKNYB
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Trustless 8 months ago
Excellent response, clarification and assurance Jack 🫡 My major skepticism when it comes to borrowing using btc collateral on an institutional scale (following Citadel GameStop order flow shenanigans, ie. insider fraudulent alchemy, conveniently swept under the rug 🫤) is: How will you keep the margin call and liquidation data private? Consider the following… A. The Bitcoin-backed loan service providers lay the carpet to Bitcoiners that would like a loan; B. The data of borrowers margin and liquidation price points (the insider information) are known by those behind/connected to the loan service providers; C. The market makers (backed by unlimited printable fiat controllers) target an optimised $ btc price and set the cascade in motion; D. More Bitcoin are sold as further liquidation limits are breached, price falls too rapid for borrowers to take action; E. The cantillionaire class who colluded to pull the rug swoop in for Bitcoin now on sale. Pristine btc collateral of struggling plebs, advised to borrow against rather than sell part on SM, now stolen by the ‘looters’ that control the rigged system; Very interested to know if this is a valid concern…🤓🫡