JD Vance says the US government will investigating opposition organizations. If they start revoking the legal status and seizing bank accounts of opposition non-profits then this represents a fundamental threat to the ongoing operation and viability of an open democratic society. They're going to crackdown by revoking articles of incorporation, tax exempt non-profit status, and then go after the bank accounts. Charlie Kirk's assassination was just an excuse they've been waiting for, if it wasn't him they'd have found another excuse. This is what happened in Hungary, Turkey, and Russia. Authoritarian democracies take and hold power by taking the money away from an organized opposition. https://archive.is/KIGjp

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There must legally be a crime committed, like murder. This is about the crime, not the money. However Criminals will get their money taken. To People who steal elections, or support killers, fuck them. Take everything they have.
Funny, we seem to be on a similar line of thinking about what’s happening across the western developed world and why. Here’s the comment I posted a few minutes ago:
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I don't know. I honestly think the underlying agenda is simpler than that. Musk was already flirting with Europe's authoritarian-leaning parties before the whole DOGE fiasco. He played a key role in bringing non-establishment parties into the game, the kind of parties that may not have a lot of luck finding other means of funding themselves. Truth be told, from a billionaire's perspective, having a friendly authoritarian ruler in power is much cheaper and easier to manage than bribing (I mean lobbying) a whole range of politicians with their own agendas. Ending democracy is... good business. I mean, until the "friendly" dictator turns on you, a lesson that the sociopathic economic elite keep forgetting.
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Canada vs the truckers broke the seal for this, but bitcoin didn't care. All of these attacks from the state will drive more bitcoin adoption
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paz 3 months ago
Thank goodness. It's about time.
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BTC-Satan 3 months ago
Obama and Biden went after the Oath Keepers .... now the turnaround !
Only partially agree, it will drive more dissident Bitcoin adoption. The normie Bitcoin adoption is ETF/treasury/options market adoption, not MoE adoption. Bitcoin as MoE is competing with stablecoins/CBDCs (governments), and so far governments are clearly winning. Context: View quoted note →
The issue isn't just about money, really. Some on the US right are rather dangerously threatening free speech, and have been for a while, and the Trump administration has for a while. Without freedom of speech, it doesn't even make much sense to describe a country as an "authoritarian democracy". Freedom of speech, regardless of anything else, regardless of the economy, is a prerequisite for democracy of any kind. The common mob is the highest authority in a democracy, and ought to be allowed to freely discuss ideas. Without this there is no democracy.
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Logen Kain 3 months ago
On the right? A bit yea, but most of the left is encourging violence against speech, a disturbing amount celebrate silencing speech via murder, and some are even outright calling to kill peoole for their speech (See:Destiny). I'm all in for free speech, but not consequence free speech. Celebrating and encouraging violence is not to be tolerated. And I hope we can get there not with laws, but culture. I'm not saying I have the answers, but the violence must not be allowed to continue. And from what I've been hearing, it looks like there may be bipartiasn work towards that end. Again, I prefer culture to law, but I'm open to it.
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Logen Kain 3 months ago
I feel like these two things are seperate ideas. It's possible to have free speech under authoritarianism.
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Logen Kain 3 months ago
What about Ukraine? He basically went full dictator by purging opposing parties and speech. But, tell me more what happened with Hungary? I assume negativity towards them is due to the EU wanting to screw them over (well the marketing behind that anyway), but there could be something real there, I'd like to know.
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markonyte 3 months ago
im down for destroying all organizations connected to Jews even the fake gatekeeper ones on the right. Start with Soros though.
The left isn't in power in the US, so I am more concerned about what the US right does, at least for now. > I'm not saying I have the answers, but the violence must not be allowed to continue. Words are not violence. Not even words that celebrate violence are violence.
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James 3 months ago
Trump, despite the rhetoric, is implementing the same WEF agenda as Carney, Starmer, Macron etc just in a more sneaky way. Look at the results: hate speech laws, Real ID, CBDCS (via 'private enterprise') Palantir infrastructure, etc.
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Akashi Hyogo 3 months ago
Soros is from Hungary. His liberal nonprofits are very active there. They have strong "conservative" government that is super corrupt (like actually stealing ton of money with their cronies) - but which government isn't at this point? (But its real bad in Hungary). The only real political opposition are liberals, which are very close to those nonprofits. (It's not like US where you have 2 parties forever, in Europe parties form and dissolve all the time) Government made series of laws like non profits have to declare foreign funding (maybe even limiting it? I don't know) and some laws limiting freedom of press. Hungary is specific because most of population is really conservative and nationalistic and liberals have massive funding from abroad. Tldr: politicians and nonprofits/media are arguing weather there should be pride march in Budapest or not while government has fused with big corps stealing everything from people.
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Akashi Hyogo 3 months ago
Now when mainstream liberals are slowly becoming criminals, maybe they will start seeing value in Bitcoin (the real one, not the paper).
Your mistake is believing there is still an open society. Maybe there never was. Maybe it died 25 years ago. Both parties are part of the same bird. The bird gets nurtured by unconscious slaves that gave the fantasies to dominate others just like they subconsciously feel dominated today. Align yourself with those people that see through this and are willing to put in the personal work to integrate different perspectives rather than trying to destroy them.
Knowing how society is run gives you an edge that you can use for good and bad. Many Bitconers are just in it for their personal fiat gains ignoring the ramifications for wider freedom. Else they would take projects like Monero more serious and stop shitting on it.
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Logen Kain 3 months ago
Ah, thanks. Sounds rough, but like you said, which government isn't? The crazy thing, at least here in the states, Corruption isn't even all that organized. It's almost like a standalone complex. But more like tons of small groups instead of legion of doom style.
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Logen Kain 3 months ago
Perhaps, but words encourage or discourage violence.
Actual incitement is illegal, I think about everywhere. What makes violence kinda more likely is subjective and effectively the same as "whatever I disagree with".