Why nostr:
- You own your identity
- Your speech stands on its own
- You can run your own everything
- You own and control your social graph
- You are free to say and do anything, but you are not free from consequences (non-repudiation of cryptographic signatures)
- You can proof realness via proof-of-work, either directly or indirectly
- Proof-of-work is what allows you to successfully combat bots, spam, and trolls, as it brings real cost to destructive actions
- Ownership and realness allows you to build and curate webs of trust, which allows for canonicality without central authority
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Nice note 🤝
Are you using the term PoW metaphorically or is there something I don’t understand about Nostr?
🫂 #Siamstr
There's no point in writing to Nostr how good Nostr is. It's as dumb as telling a bitcoiner what bitcoin is.
Some Nostrichs may also appreciate having that info to relay to non-nostr friends 🤙💜✨
LFG! BULLISH ON NOSTR 👏🏻
Not a metaphor. PoW = PoW, and sats are PoW too. ⚡

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sats are the right kind of PoW for most use cases in nostr
spam protection directly via PoW doesn't work when an ASIC and a mobile compete in the same playing field.
sats level the PoW playing field
Sats are difficulty-adjusted PoW, which is way better than straight up PoW.
Can you go deeper on proof of realness via proof of work and how it combats bots and spam?
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I love Nostr. It’s the first time I’ve ever actually wanted to share personal things or interact with others on social media.
NOSTR ONLY 🫡
HEY THANKS FOR UN-UNFOLLOWEDING ME, FELLOW #BONO MAXIMALIST
#Nostr only, left Xshitter on 1/28/2024 😎
#ONLYZAPS
ทำไมต้องใช้ Nostr?
- คุณเป็นเจ้าของตัวตนของคุณเอง: ไม่มีใครสามารถควบคุมหรือยึดบัญชีของคุณได้
- เสียงของคุณมีอิสระ: คุณสามารถแสดงความคิดเห็นได้อย่างอิสระโดยไม่ถูกเซ็นเซอร์
- คุณจัดการทุกอย่างเองได้: คุณสามารถรันเซิร์ฟเวอร์ของคุณเองเพื่อควบคุมการใช้งานทั้งหมด
- คุณควบคุมเครือข่ายความสัมพันธ์ของคุณ: คุณสามารถเลือกติดตามใครก็ได้อย่างอิสระ
- คุณมีอิสระในการพูดและทำสิ่งต่างๆ แต่ก็ต้องรับผิดชอบต่อผลลัพธ์ (เนื่องจากลายเซ็นดิจิทัลไม่สามารถปฏิเสธได้): คุณสามารถแสดงความคิดเห็นได้อย่างอิสระ แต่ก็ต้องรับผิดชอบต่อสิ่งที่คุณโพสต์
- คุณสามารถพิสูจน์ความเป็นจริงด้วย Proof-of-work: คุณสามารถยืนยันตัวตนได้ว่าเป็นคนที่โพสต์ข้อความนั้นจริงๆ
Proof-of-work ช่วยกำจัดบอท สแปม และพวกชอบรบกวน: ระบบนี้จะช่วยกรองคนที่ต้องการสร้างความรำคาญออกไป
- การเป็นเจ้าของข้อมูลและความเป็นจริงช่วยสร้างเครือข่ายความเชื่อถือ: คุณสามารถสร้างชุมชนที่น่าเชื่อถือได้โดยไม่ต้องอาศัยการควบคุมจากศูนย์กลาง
ผมใช้ Gemini แปล แต่ความหมายครบตามนั้นเลย
#Siamstr #Nostr
Hell no. Engrain notes in stone.
I don't want all the little hucksters who come around every market cycle going around deleting receipts. Reputation matters.
You wanna say something you own it.
You can't take it back IRL, you shouldn't get to undo it online. Transparency. Reality. Truth.
> Proof-of-work is what allows you to successfully combat bots, spam, and trolls, as it brings real cost to destructive actions
Spammers are willing to spend money to spam.
They go as far as buying lists of email addresses, they'd have no issue running POW algorithms if they need to.
If anything spammers may be more willing to pay than the average social media user.
Paywalls don't protect you from spammers. See spammers on Twitter with the "verified" badge.
The best trust protection is manual "vetting".
Let Sally endorse Bob as an authentic human. But only once Sally has first been endorsed trustworthy herself. Creating an opt-in circle of trust.
If a bot slips through the cracks, Sally can remove her endorsement of Bob. Which removes ALL endorsements that Bob made too, all the way down the line. Blasting bot-nets out of the sky.
Only endorse people you trust, and people you trust to make trustworthy endorsements as well.
🫡
- You get to spend hours worrying about which client to use, which relays to trust, which developers to support, which nips you should be adopting, which wallets are not going to rug you, which new apps you are missing out on, which memes get the best response in zapathons, and whether anyone even sees your notes.
clients compete for users
👇👇👇Nice Summary👇👇👇
I own my own me! Yay!
Scammers are trying to make money.
Sometimes you need to spend money to make money. Why would scammers not be willing to spend some money?
Good word 🙌🏼
This is a call to be better from the start.
Think before you act. Edit.
Repeat.
Simple and powerful message not all learn easily. More visceral in the sense that it better reflects the reality of the imperfect world it represents.
Feature, not a bug, I say! To the deathbed!!! 

I disagree. We are human after all.
What’s a “human identity” supposed to be in this context?
You goto Nostr because you're sick of creating different accounts to 'go places'
Nostr will black hole all things that Websites and API's give us, just like bitcoin is black holing value.
You goto nostr to because their is no requirement to 'join' new things to gain the best of their experience
I see, but identity is a mental construct that refers to real entities (although this is already subjective).
A digital identity is the digital artifact of such a construct. A bureaucratic identity is, analogously, the administrative artifact.
My neighbor's face is not part of the identity. It is part of the reality to which an identity refers. Incidentally, the identity that I assign to him based on my perception does not require a general discussion, as it is not a general phenomenon.
In my view, there is no such thing as a human identity, at least not in a way that is meaningfully comparable to a digital or bureaucratic identity.
The conceptual crux of identity is how it can be firmly and verifiably linked to real events as a mental construct, despite the definitional vagueness, the change of things over time, the susceptibility to errors of real implementation of corresponding systems, etc.
lol that’s not the point but okay
Actually *that* is what I meant. 😄 There are functionally very different types (and therefore definitions) of identity.
I’d differentiate the ones serving (self-)definitory purpose (“who am I in relation to others?”) from this which serve a transactional purpose (“how can others know I (still) am who I claimed to be?”).
You’re right. That plurality of definitions and functions is an “interesting” point to start. 😄
Why nostr:
- You own your identity
- Your speech stands on its own
- You can run your own everything
- You own and control your social graph
- You are free to say and do anything, but you are not free from consequences (non-repudiation of cryptographic signatures)
- You can proof realness via proof-of-work, either directly or indirectly
- Proof-of-work is what allows you to successfully combat bots, spam, and trolls, as it brings real cost to destructive actions
- Ownership and realness allows you to build and curate webs of trust, which allows for canonicality without central authority